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On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 16:35, Patricia Fraser <trish@thefrasers.org> wrote:
+

+
And if users are rude and nasty to devs or packagers, then there won't
+be a distro. So, we need to find ways to help both sets of people be
+good to each other - understanding, polite and make sure that users get
+to know which forums/MLs/IRC channels are the right ones to use, and
+how to do proper bug reports, and devs/packagers know to show users
+where to go for help/how to report bugs etc.

Yes, it is best not taken as an all/nothing issue.
I think we need to find or invent a diversified structure, whith clear directions and rules, partly automatically enforced, partly by moderation.
+(And progressively automatise frequent problems dectected by moderators.)

The aim is to :

1. prevent users from seeing no way to report problems, and those who think they have reported a problem from feeling nobody listens
+
2. prevent devs/packagers from beeing flooded

There will probably be some trial and error involved, but if we succeed  I think there will be a great payoff.

I also think there will be a need, at least initially, for more moderators, and at different levels.
+
+
+Maybe we have a page where there's netiquette, the various places for
+help, and the URL's in the footer of emails? and then we can politely
+point to it, and invite people to continue the conversation in the
+right place?
+
yes
 
+Cheers,
+
+- --
+Patricia Fraser
--

Frederic
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On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 16:35, Patricia Fraser <trish@thefrasers.org> wrote:
+

+
And if users are rude and nasty to devs or packagers, then there won't
+be a distro. So, we need to find ways to help both sets of people be
+good to each other - understanding, polite and make sure that users get
+to know which forums/MLs/IRC channels are the right ones to use, and
+how to do proper bug reports, and devs/packagers know to show users
+where to go for help/how to report bugs etc.

Yes, it is best not taken as an all/nothing issue.
I think we need to find or invent a diversified structure, whith clear directions and rules, partly automatically enforced, partly by moderation.
+(And progressively automatise frequent problems dectected by moderators.)

The aim is to :

1. prevent users from seeing no way to report problems, and those who think they have reported a problem from feeling nobody listens
+
2. prevent devs/packagers from beeing flooded

There will probably be some trial and error involved, but if we succeed  I think there will be a great payoff.

I also think there will be a need, at least initially, for more moderators, and at different levels.
+
+
+Maybe we have a page where there's netiquette, the various places for
+help, and the URL's in the footer of emails? and then we can politely
+point to it, and invite people to continue the conversation in the
+right place?
+
yes
 
+Cheers,
+
+- --
+Patricia Fraser
--

Frederic
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