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[Mageia-discuss] Booting into safe mode -- not working

+ Marc Paré + marc at marcpare.com +
+ Mon Jun 25 06:04:40 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
I was in the process of working out problems with a friend of mine who 
+had trouble with her config files and I wanted to boot into "safe mode" 
+to walk her through "drakconf".
+
+When I tried to boot into safe mode it stopped at "Failed to issue 
+method call: Transaction is destructive". My box still boots fine into 
+regular mode but won't in safe mode. What is curious also, is that I 
+have another box that I am repairing for someone and it does the same 
+thing, it won't boot into safe mode. However, I tried it on laptop and 
+it does boot into safe mode. Weird.
+
+Anyway, any ideas on how I could get safe mode to work properly again? I 
+took a camera shot of the monitor and the output on the last page of 
+booting up into safe mode where it died[1].
+
+NOTE: all systems are running Mageia2
+
+Thanks for any help.
+
+Marc
+
+[1] http://www.parentreprise.com/images/Mageia/Photo0137.jpg
+
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Booting into safe mode -- not working

+ Doug Laidlaw + laidlaws at hotkey.net.au +
+ Mon Jun 25 07:20:12 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:04:40 -0400
+Marc Paré <marc at marcpare.com> wrote:
+
+> I was in the process of working out problems with a friend of mine
+> who had trouble with her config files and I wanted to boot into "safe
+> mode" to walk her through "drakconf".
+> 
+> When I tried to boot into safe mode it stopped at "Failed to issue 
+> method call: Transaction is destructive". My box still boots fine
+> into regular mode but won't in safe mode. What is curious also, is
+> that I have another box that I am repairing for someone and it does
+> the same thing, it won't boot into safe mode. However, I tried it on
+> laptop and it does boot into safe mode. Weird.
+> 
+> Anyway, any ideas on how I could get safe mode to work properly
+> again? I took a camera shot of the monitor and the output on the last
+> page of booting up into safe mode where it died[1].
+> 
+> NOTE: all systems are running Mageia2
+> 
+> Thanks for any help.
+> 
+> Marc
+> 
+> [1] http://www.parentreprise.com/images/Mageia/Photo0137.jpg
+> 
+>
+It looks as though you aren't the only one:
+http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=266172 and the bug
+report quoted there may be of some help.  Note that Fedora uses lvm by
+default.  There are other reports in Google as well.
+
+HTH,
+
+Doug.
+
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Booting into safe mode -- not working

+ Marc Paré + marc at marcpare.com +
+ Mon Jun 25 08:28:57 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
Hi Doug,
+
+Le 2012-06-25 01:20, Doug Laidlaw a écrit :
+> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:04:40 -0400
+> Marc Paré<marc at marcpare.com>  wrote:
+>
+>> I was in the process of working out problems with a friend of mine
+>> who had trouble with her config files and I wanted to boot into "safe
+>> mode" to walk her through "drakconf".
+>>
+>> When I tried to boot into safe mode it stopped at "Failed to issue
+>> method call: Transaction is destructive". My box still boots fine
+>> into regular mode but won't in safe mode. What is curious also, is
+>> that I have another box that I am repairing for someone and it does
+>> the same thing, it won't boot into safe mode. However, I tried it on
+>> laptop and it does boot into safe mode. Weird.
+>>
+>> Anyway, any ideas on how I could get safe mode to work properly
+>> again? I took a camera shot of the monitor and the output on the last
+>> page of booting up into safe mode where it died[1].
+>>
+>> NOTE: all systems are running Mageia2
+>>
+>> Thanks for any help.
+>>
+>> Marc
+>>
+>> [1] http://www.parentreprise.com/images/Mageia/Photo0137.jpg
+>>
+>>
+> It looks as though you aren't the only one:
+> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=266172 and the bug
+> report quoted there may be of some help.  Note that Fedora uses lvm by
+> default.  There are other reports in Google as well.
+>
+> HTH,
+>
+> Doug.
+>
+>
+
+Thanks for the note.
+
+This is really not what I am experiencing, although perhaps having 
+shared folders may be the cause of the problem. I don't imagine that if 
+my system were not to be able to boot in normal mode that I would have 
+the tools on me to fix the problem as I would be unable to boot into any 
+safe mode.
+
+Our Mageia2 systems should be able to boot, at the very least, into safe 
+mode, regardless of any prior configurations. I have 2 boxes where 
+booting in safe mode is not possible.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Booting into safe mode -- not working

+ Doug Laidlaw + laidlaws at hotkey.net.au +
+ Mon Jun 25 09:30:26 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 02:28:57 -0400
+Marc Paré <marc at marcpare.com> wrote:
+
+> Hi Doug,
+> 
+> Le 2012-06-25 01:20, Doug Laidlaw a écrit :
+> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:04:40 -0400
+> > Marc Paré<marc at marcpare.com>  wrote:
+> >
+> >> I was in the process of working out problems with a friend of mine
+> >> who had trouble with her config files and I wanted to boot into
+> >> "safe mode" to walk her through "drakconf".
+> >>
+> >> When I tried to boot into safe mode it stopped at "Failed to issue
+> >> method call: Transaction is destructive". My box still boots fine
+> >> into regular mode but won't in safe mode. What is curious also, is
+> >> that I have another box that I am repairing for someone and it does
+> >> the same thing, it won't boot into safe mode. However, I tried it
+> >> on laptop and it does boot into safe mode. Weird.
+> >>
+> >> Anyway, any ideas on how I could get safe mode to work properly
+> >> again? I took a camera shot of the monitor and the output on the
+> >> last page of booting up into safe mode where it died[1].
+> >>
+> >> NOTE: all systems are running Mageia2
+> >>
+> >> Thanks for any help.
+> >>
+> >> Marc
+> >>
+> >> [1] http://www.parentreprise.com/images/Mageia/Photo0137.jpg
+> >>
+> >>
+> > It looks as though you aren't the only one:
+> > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=266172 and the bug
+> > report quoted there may be of some help.  Note that Fedora uses lvm
+> > by default.  There are other reports in Google as well.
+> >
+> > HTH,
+> >
+> > Doug.
+> >
+> >
+> 
+> Thanks for the note.
+> 
+> This is really not what I am experiencing, although perhaps having 
+> shared folders may be the cause of the problem. I don't imagine that
+> if my system were not to be able to boot in normal mode that I would
+> have the tools on me to fix the problem as I would be unable to boot
+> into any safe mode.
+> 
+> Our Mageia2 systems should be able to boot, at the very least, into
+> safe mode, regardless of any prior configurations. I have 2 boxes
+> where booting in safe mode is not possible.
+> 
+> Cheers,
+> 
+> Marc
+> 
+I just rebooted mine into Cauldron as a test.  At the Cauldron
+bootloader screen, I selected "failsafe."
+
+Everything booted OK and I got a prompt saying "Welcome to rescue
+mode."  I don't know if that is the normal result
+for single user, but a few lines above, it said it was "Reconfiguring at
+administrator request," and called a single user config.    It would
+seem that your problem doesn't arise for everybody (Wouldn't it!)
+
+Doug.
+
+ + + +
+

+ +
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[Mageia-discuss] Booting into safe mode -- not working

+ Morgan Leijström + fri at tribun.eu +
+ Mon Jun 25 10:16:49 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
måndagen den 25 juni 2012 09.30.26 skrev  Doug Laidlaw:
+> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 02:28:57 -0400
+> 
+> Marc Paré <marc at marcpare.com> wrote:
+> > Hi Doug,
+> > 
+> > Le 2012-06-25 01:20, Doug Laidlaw a écrit :
+> > > On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 00:04:40 -0400
+> > > 
+> > > Marc Paré<marc at marcpare.com>  wrote:
+> > >> I was in the process of working out problems with a friend of mine
+> > >> who had trouble with her config files and I wanted to boot into
+> > >> "safe mode" to walk her through "drakconf".
+> > >> 
+> > >> When I tried to boot into safe mode it stopped at "Failed to issue
+> > >> method call: Transaction is destructive". My box still boots fine
+> > >> into regular mode but won't in safe mode. What is curious also, is
+> > >> that I have another box that I am repairing for someone and it does
+> > >> the same thing, it won't boot into safe mode. However, I tried it
+> > >> on laptop and it does boot into safe mode. Weird.
+> > >> 
+> > >> Anyway, any ideas on how I could get safe mode to work properly
+> > >> again? I took a camera shot of the monitor and the output on the
+> > >> last page of booting up into safe mode where it died[1].
+> > >> 
+> > >> NOTE: all systems are running Mageia2
+> > >> 
+> > >> Thanks for any help.
+> > >> 
+> > >> Marc
+> > >> 
+> > >> [1] http://www.parentreprise.com/images/Mageia/Photo0137.jpg
+> > > 
+> > > It looks as though you aren't the only one:
+> > > http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=266172 and the bug
+> > > report quoted there may be of some help.  Note that Fedora uses lvm
+> > > by default.  There are other reports in Google as well.
+> > > 
+> > > HTH,
+> > > 
+> > > Doug.
+> > 
+> > Thanks for the note.
+> > 
+> > This is really not what I am experiencing, although perhaps having
+> > shared folders may be the cause of the problem. I don't imagine that
+> > if my system were not to be able to boot in normal mode that I would
+> > have the tools on me to fix the problem as I would be unable to boot
+> > into any safe mode.
+> > 
+> > Our Mageia2 systems should be able to boot, at the very least, into
+> > safe mode, regardless of any prior configurations. I have 2 boxes
+> > where booting in safe mode is not possible.
+> > 
+> > Cheers,
+> > 
+> > Marc
+> 
+> I just rebooted mine into Cauldron as a test.  At the Cauldron
+> bootloader screen, I selected "failsafe."
+> 
+> Everything booted OK and I got a prompt saying "Welcome to rescue
+> mode."  I don't know if that is the normal result
+> for single user, but a few lines above, it said it was "Reconfiguring at
+> administrator request," and called a single user config.    It would
+> seem that your problem doesn't arise for everybody (Wouldn't it!)
+> 
+> Doug.
+
+https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5381 ?
+
+-- 
+Morgan Leijström
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Booting into safe mode -- not working

+ Marc Paré + marc at marcpare.com +
+ Mon Jun 25 10:51:35 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
Thanks Morgan
+
+Le 2012-06-25 04:16, Morgan Leijström a écrit :
+
+>
+> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5381 ?
+>
+
+Hmmm, if this is the problem, would there have been a fix during one of 
+the updates? The bug is dated this past April.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Marc
+
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Booting into safe mode -- not working

+ Morgan Leijström + fri at tribun.eu +
+ Mon Jun 25 11:08:12 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
måndagen den 25 juni 2012 10.51.35 skrev  Marc Paré:
+> Thanks Morgan
+> 
+> Le 2012-06-25 04:16, Morgan Leijström a écrit :
+> > https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5381 ?
+> 
+> Hmmm, if this is the problem, would there have been a fix during one of
+> the updates? The bug is dated this past April.
+
+That update (or possible something else?) fixed the problem for me
+
+Maybe the issue was not understood
+Or it is a completely different cause but same result?
+
+As first step i think you should reopen and comment on that bug.
+
+-- 
+Morgan Leijström
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail

+ Anne Wilson + annew at kde.org +
+ Mon Jun 25 12:36:56 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
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+Plain M2 :-)  Every time I started Thunderbird I got a message that it
+couldn't locate the local mail spool (can't remember the exact words).
+ Assuming it meant /var/spool/mail/anne, I touched that, owned
+anne:mail (I tried root, too), but now the message is "Unable to
+truncate spool file /var/spool/mail/anne".
+
+I don't have the problem on the Cauldron netbook, so I checked there,
+and there is no /var/spool/mail/anne - so I guess something has
+changed wrt local mail.  Are we now talking about
+~/.local/share/local-mail/ ?  What do I need to do now?
+
+Anne
+- -- 
+Need KDE help? Try
+http://userbase.kde.org or
+http://forum.kde.org
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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail

+ Doug Laidlaw + laidlaws at hotkey.net.au +
+ Mon Jun 25 12:55:57 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:36:56 +0100
+Anne Wilson <annew at kde.org> wrote:
+
+> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+> Hash: SHA1
+> 
+> Plain M2 :-)  Every time I started Thunderbird I got a message that it
+> couldn't locate the local mail spool (can't remember the exact words).
+>  Assuming it meant /var/spool/mail/anne, I touched that, owned
+> anne:mail (I tried root, too), but now the message is "Unable to
+> truncate spool file /var/spool/mail/anne".
+> 
+> I don't have the problem on the Cauldron netbook, so I checked there,
+> and there is no /var/spool/mail/anne - so I guess something has
+> changed wrt local mail.  Are we now talking about
+> ~/.local/share/local-mail/ ?  What do I need to do now?
+> 
+> Anne
+> - -- 
+/var/spool/mail/anne is the system mailbox for user anne.  Thunderbird
+will be putting your mail somewhere else.  I suspect that it will be a
+dot-directory under /home/anne, perhaps a subdirectory of
+your .mozilla directory.
+
+I think that TB uses the mbox file format.  That means that your inbox
+will be one big file.  Perhaps TB is trying to delete the old mails,
+hence "truncate."
+
+HTH,
+
+Doug.
+
+
+ + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail

+ Doug Laidlaw + laidlaws at hotkey.net.au +
+ Mon Jun 25 12:50:00 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:36:56 +0100
+Anne Wilson <annew at kde.org> wrote:
+
+> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+> Hash: SHA1
+> 
+> Plain M2 :-)  Every time I started Thunderbird I got a message that it
+> couldn't locate the local mail spool (can't remember the exact words).
+>  Assuming it meant /var/spool/mail/anne, I touched that, owned
+> anne:mail (I tried root, too), but now the message is "Unable to
+> truncate spool file /var/spool/mail/anne".
+> 
+> I don't have the problem on the Cauldron netbook, so I checked there,
+> and there is no  at all.  I suspect that it will be in a d - so I
+> guess something has changed wrt local mail.  Are we now talking about
+> ~/.local/share/local-mail/ ?  What do I need to do now?
+> 
+> Anne
+> - -- 
+> Need KDE help? Try
+> http://userbase.kde.org or
+> http://forum.kde.org
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+> !DSPAM:4fe83fcb37146230912376!
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+
+/var/spool/mail/anne is the address of your local mailbox for user
+anne.  Your mauilbox for Thuunderbird will be somewhere else.  For
+example, I download mail into /var/spool/mail/doug, and my email client
+(kmail, currently claws-mail) moves it to the client's mailbox.  If you
+are downloading mail diectly from the Internet with Thunderbird, you
+won't be using /var/spool/mail/anne
+
+ + +
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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail

+ Doug Laidlaw + laidlaws at hotkey.net.au +
+ Mon Jun 25 13:01:13 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 20:55:57 +1000
+Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws at hotkey.net.au> wrote:
+
+> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:36:56 +0100
+> Anne Wilson <annew at kde.org> wrote:
+> 
+> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+> > Hash: SHA1
+> > 
+> > Plain M2 :-)  Every time I started Thunderbird I got a message that
+> > it couldn't locate the local mail spool (can't remember the exact
+> > words). Assuming it meant /var/spool/mail/anne, I touched that,
+> > owned anne:mail (I tried root, too), but now the message is "Unable
+> > to truncate spool file /var/spool/mail/anne".
+> > 
+> > I don't have the problem on the Cauldron netbook, so I checked
+> > there, and there is no /var/spool/mail/anne - so I guess something
+> > has changed wrt local mail.  Are we now talking about
+> > ~/.local/share/local-mail/ ?  What do I need to do now?
+> > 
+> > Anne
+> > - -- 
+> /var/spool/mail/anne is the system mailbox for user anne.  Thunderbird
+> will be putting your mail somewhere else.  I suspect that it will be a
+> dot-directory under /home/anne, perhaps a subdirectory of
+> your .mozilla directory.
+> 
+> I think that TB uses the mbox file format.  That means that your inbox
+> will be one big file.  Perhaps TB is trying to delete the old mails,
+> hence "truncate."
+> 
+> HTH,
+> 
+> Doug.
+> 
+Sorry about the two emails.  The first one just disappeared from my
+composer window, and I thought it was cancelled.
+
+Doug.
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail

+ Norbert Marchl + norbert.marchl at aon.at +
+ Mon Jun 25 13:11:39 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
Am 2012-06-25 12:55, schrieb Doug Laidlaw:
+> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:36:56 +0100
+> Anne Wilson<annew at kde.org>  wrote:
+>
+>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+>> Hash: SHA1
+>>
+>> Plain M2 :-)  Every time I started Thunderbird I got a message that it
+>> couldn't locate the local mail spool (can't remember the exact words).
+>>   Assuming it meant /var/spool/mail/anne, I touched that, owned
+>> anne:mail (I tried root, too), but now the message is "Unable to
+>> truncate spool file /var/spool/mail/anne".
+>>
+>> I don't have the problem on the Cauldron netbook, so I checked there,
+>> and there is no /var/spool/mail/anne - so I guess something has
+>> changed wrt local mail.  Are we now talking about
+>> ~/.local/share/local-mail/ ?  What do I need to do now?
+>>
+>> Anne
+>> - -- 
+> /var/spool/mail/anne is the system mailbox for user anne.  Thunderbird
+> will be putting your mail somewhere else.  I suspect that it will be a
+> dot-directory under /home/anne, perhaps a subdirectory of
+> your .mozilla directory.
+>
+> I think that TB uses the mbox file format.  That means that your inbox
+> will be one big file.  Perhaps TB is trying to delete the old mails,
+> hence "truncate."
+>
+> HTH,
+>
+> Doug.
+>
+>
+Try a look in the folder: /home/.thunderbird/w18nngb3.defaul/Mail.
+
+I cant say what under .thunderbird is the same on you install. In the 
+folder Mail I have four subfolders and one of this has the name as the 
+Server name in the Server-adjustment for the POP-Server. Here I found 
+the files for my folders (if created to sort mails). I hope this helps
+
+Norbert
+
+ + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail

+ James Kerr + jim at jkerr82508.free-online.co.uk +
+ Mon Jun 25 13:54:07 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On 25/06/2012 11:36, Anne Wilson wrote:
+> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+> Hash: SHA1
+>
+> Plain M2 :-)  Every time I started Thunderbird I got a message that it
+> couldn't locate the local mail spool (can't remember the exact words).
+>   Assuming it meant /var/spool/mail/anne, I touched that, owned
+> anne:mail (I tried root, too), but now the message is "Unable to
+> truncate spool file /var/spool/mail/anne".
+>
+> I don't have the problem on the Cauldron netbook, so I checked there,
+> and there is no /var/spool/mail/anne - so I guess something has
+> changed wrt local mail.  Are we now talking about
+> ~/.local/share/local-mail/ ?  What do I need to do now?
+>
+
+I don't have this problem. I use postfix to deliver system mails to 
+/var/spool/mail/jim. (I don't use it for any other purpose.) Thunderbird 
+collects those and stores them in
+~/.thunderbird/xxx.default/Mail/localhost/inbox (where xxx is an 
+alphanumeric string). /var/spool/mail/jim is owned by jim.
+
+The process is the same on both my Mageia2 and cauldron installations.
+
+That error message suggests to me that there is something about the file 
+in /var/spool/mail/anne that is not what thunderbird expects, but I've 
+no idea what that might be. The only thought I have is that for some 
+reason that file is read only instead of read/write.
+
+Jim
+
+
+
+
+
+
+
+ + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail

+ James Kerr + jim at jkerr82508.free-online.co.uk +
+ Mon Jun 25 14:06:45 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On 25/06/2012 12:54, James Kerr wrote:
+> On 25/06/2012 11:36, Anne Wilson wrote:
+>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+>> Hash: SHA1
+>>
+>> Plain M2 :-)  Every time I started Thunderbird I got a message that it
+>> couldn't locate the local mail spool (can't remember the exact words).
+>>   Assuming it meant /var/spool/mail/anne, I touched that, owned
+>> anne:mail (I tried root, too), but now the message is "Unable to
+>> truncate spool file /var/spool/mail/anne".
+>>
+>> I don't have the problem on the Cauldron netbook, so I checked there,
+>> and there is no /var/spool/mail/anne - so I guess something has
+>> changed wrt local mail.  Are we now talking about
+>> ~/.local/share/local-mail/ ?  What do I need to do now?
+>>
+>
+> I don't have this problem. I use postfix to deliver system mails to
+> /var/spool/mail/jim. (I don't use it for any other purpose.) Thunderbird
+> collects those and stores them in
+> ~/.thunderbird/xxx.default/Mail/localhost/inbox (where xxx is an
+> alphanumeric string). /var/spool/mail/jim is owned by jim.
+>
+> The process is the same on both my Mageia2 and cauldron installations.
+>
+> That error message suggests to me that there is something about the file
+> in /var/spool/mail/anne that is not what thunderbird expects, but I've
+> no idea what that might be. The only thought I have is that for some
+> reason that file is read only instead of read/write.
+>
+> Jim
+>
+
+Sorry - one point that I forgot to mention. /var/spool/mail/anne is only 
+created when the first message is delivered and so thunderbird reports 
+that it cannot find it until mails start being delivered to it.
+
+
+
+
+
+
+ + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail

+ Doug Laidlaw + laidlaws at hotkey.net.au +
+ Mon Jun 25 14:21:24 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:06:45 +0100
+James Kerr <jim at jkerr82508.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
+
+> On 25/06/2012 12:54, James Kerr wrote:
+> > On 25/06/2012 11:36, Anne Wilson wrote:
+> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+> >> Hash: SHA1
+> >>
+> >> Plain M2 :-)  Every time I started Thunderbird I got a message
+> >> that it couldn't locate the local mail spool (can't remember the
+> >> exact words). Assuming it meant /var/spool/mail/anne, I touched
+> >> that, owned anne:mail (I tried root, too), but now the message is
+> >> "Unable to truncate spool file /var/spool/mail/anne".
+> >>
+> >> I don't have the problem on the Cauldron netbook, so I checked
+> >> there, and there is no /var/spool/mail/anne - so I guess something
+> >> has changed wrt local mail.  Are we now talking about
+> >> ~/.local/share/local-mail/ ?  What do I need to do now?
+> >>
+> >
+> > I don't have this problem. I use postfix to deliver system mails to
+> > /var/spool/mail/jim. (I don't use it for any other purpose.)
+> > Thunderbird collects those and stores them in
+> > ~/.thunderbird/xxx.default/Mail/localhost/inbox (where xxx is an
+> > alphanumeric string). /var/spool/mail/jim is owned by jim.
+> >
+> > The process is the same on both my Mageia2 and cauldron
+> > installations.
+> >
+> > That error message suggests to me that there is something about the
+> > file in /var/spool/mail/anne that is not what thunderbird expects,
+> > but I've no idea what that might be. The only thought I have is
+> > that for some reason that file is read only instead of read/write.
+> >
+> > Jim
+> >
+> 
+> Sorry - one point that I forgot to mention. /var/spool/mail/anne is
+> only created when the first message is delivered and so thunderbird
+> reports that it cannot find it until mails start being delivered to
+> it.
+> 
+> 
+But you use Postfix.  I use getmail.  Both deliver mail
+to /var/spool/mail/user.  If Anne is downloading her mail directly via
+POP, /var/spool/mail/anne will never be used.  Kmail is like that.  In
+both cases, the mail is placed in the appropriate place in $HOME.
+I am running getmail as user, so I had to create /var/spool/mail/doug
+manually.  It is an mbox file, so can be created with "touch."  Postfix
+runs as root, and can create the spool if necessary.
+
+It did occur to me that the config screens may say what the directories
+are, but it looks as though $HOME/.thunderbird is the place to look.
+
+Doug.
+
+ + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail

+ Doug Laidlaw + laidlaws at hotkey.net.au +
+ Mon Jun 25 14:28:51 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:21:24 +1000
+Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws at hotkey.net.au> wrote:
+
+> But you use Postfix.  I use getmail.  Both deliver mail
+> to /var/spool/mail/user.  If Anne is downloading her mail directly via
+> POP, /var/spool/mail/anne will never be used.  Kmail is like that.  In
+> both cases, the mail is placed in the appropriate place in $HOME.
+> I am running getmail as user, so I had to create /var/spool/mail/doug
+> manually.  It is an mbox file, so can be created with "touch."
+> Postfix runs as root, and can create the spool if necessary.
+> 
+> It did occur to me that the config screens may say what the
+> directories are, but it looks as though $HOME/.thunderbird is the
+> place to look.
+> 
+> Doug.
+> 
+Of course, if Anne _is_ using a local mail server, Thunderbird must
+point to /var/spool/mail/anne.  But she can receive mail on the
+notebook, where that file doesn't exist, so I assume she is using
+straight POP or IMAP.
+
+Doug.
+
+
+ + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail

+ Frank Griffin + ftg at roadrunner.com +
+ Mon Jun 25 14:31:28 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On 06/25/2012 06:36 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
+> Plain M2 :-)  Every time I started Thunderbird I got a message that it
+> couldn't locate the local mail spool (can't remember the exact words).
+>   Assuming it meant /var/spool/mail/anne, I touched that, owned
+> anne:mail (I tried root, too), but now the message is "Unable to
+> truncate spool file /var/spool/mail/anne".
+>
+Try running TB under strace, e. g.
+
+    strace -f -o /tmp/strace -e trace=open,read,write thunderbird
+
+and check the /tmp/strace output for an open or I/O error related to 
+that file after the error occurs.
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail

+ James Kerr + jim at jkerr82508.free-online.co.uk +
+ Mon Jun 25 15:05:36 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On 25/06/2012 13:28, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
+> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:21:24 +1000
+> Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws at hotkey.net.au> wrote:
+>
+>> But you use Postfix.  I use getmail.  Both deliver mail
+>> to /var/spool/mail/user.  If Anne is downloading her mail directly via
+>> POP, /var/spool/mail/anne will never be used.  Kmail is like that.  In
+>> both cases, the mail is placed in the appropriate place in $HOME.
+>> I am running getmail as user, so I had to create /var/spool/mail/doug
+>> manually.  It is an mbox file, so can be created with "touch."
+>> Postfix runs as root, and can create the spool if necessary.
+>>
+>> It did occur to me that the config screens may say what the
+>> directories are, but it looks as though $HOME/.thunderbird is the
+>> place to look.
+>>
+>> Doug.
+>>
+> Of course, if Anne _is_ using a local mail server, Thunderbird must
+> point to /var/spool/mail/anne.  But she can receive mail on the
+> notebook, where that file doesn't exist, so I assume she is using
+> straight POP or IMAP.
+>
+
+If indeed Anne is using POP or IMAP to collect "local" mail then I don't 
+think she needs to configure a Unix Movemail account in thunderbird. I 
+believe it is that account that is looking at /var/spool/mail/anne. 
+Perhaps she has such an account on Mageia 2 but not in cauldron, which 
+would explain why she does not see the error messages on cauldron.
+
+Jim
+
+
+
+
+ + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail

+ Anne Wilson + annew at kde.org +
+ Mon Jun 25 16:43:37 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
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+Hash: SHA1
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+On 25/06/12 11:55, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
+> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:36:56 +0100 Anne Wilson <annew at kde.org> 
+> wrote:
+> 
+>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
+>> 
+>> Plain M2 :-)  Every time I started Thunderbird I got a message
+>> that it couldn't locate the local mail spool (can't remember the
+>> exact words). Assuming it meant /var/spool/mail/anne, I touched
+>> that, owned anne:mail (I tried root, too), but now the message is
+>> "Unable to truncate spool file /var/spool/mail/anne".
+>> 
+>> I don't have the problem on the Cauldron netbook, so I checked 
+>> there, and there is no /var/spool/mail/anne - so I guess
+>> something has changed wrt local mail.  Are we now talking about 
+>> ~/.local/share/local-mail/ ?  What do I need to do now?
+>> 
+>> Anne - --
+> /var/spool/mail/anne is the system mailbox for user anne. 
+> Thunderbird will be putting your mail somewhere else.  I suspect
+> that it will be a dot-directory under /home/anne, perhaps a
+> subdirectory of your .mozilla directory.
+> 
+> I think that TB uses the mbox file format.  That means that your 
+> inbox will be one big file.  Perhaps TB is trying to delete the
+> old mails, hence "truncate."
+> 
+That makes sense, yes.  I had assumed that it was talking about system
+messages, which I would expect to be in /var/spool/mail/anne.
+
+I am using IMAP - not Disconnected IMAP - IOW, I don't store mail
+locally (though I did previously), so that shouldn't be the problem.
+All the same, I'll give it some thought.
+
+Thanks
+
+Anne
+- -- 
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+http://userbase.kde.org or
+http://forum.kde.org
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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail

+ Anne Wilson + annew at kde.org +
+ Mon Jun 25 17:15:09 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+Hash: SHA1
+
+On 25/06/12 12:54, James Kerr wrote:
+> On 25/06/2012 11:36, Anne Wilson wrote:
+>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
+>> 
+>> Plain M2 :-)  Every time I started Thunderbird I got a message
+>> that it couldn't locate the local mail spool (can't remember the
+>> exact words). Assuming it meant /var/spool/mail/anne, I touched
+>> that, owned anne:mail (I tried root, too), but now the message is
+>> "Unable to truncate spool file /var/spool/mail/anne".
+>> 
+>> I don't have the problem on the Cauldron netbook, so I checked
+>> there, and there is no /var/spool/mail/anne - so I guess
+>> something has changed wrt local mail.  Are we now talking about 
+>> ~/.local/share/local-mail/ ?  What do I need to do now?
+>> 
+> 
+> I don't have this problem. I use postfix to deliver system mails
+> to /var/spool/mail/jim. (I don't use it for any other purpose.)
+> Thunderbird collects those and stores them in 
+> ~/.thunderbird/xxx.default/Mail/localhost/inbox (where xxx is an 
+> alphanumeric string). /var/spool/mail/jim is owned by jim.
+> 
+> The process is the same on both my Mageia2 and cauldron
+> installations.
+> 
+> That error message suggests to me that there is something about the
+> file in /var/spool/mail/anne that is not what thunderbird expects,
+> but I've no idea what that might be. The only thought I have is
+> that for some reason that file is read only instead of read/write.
+> 
+The only file that was in /var/spool/mail/ before I created that file
+was 'postfix'.  When I checked the Cauldron netbook, that was the
+situation there too, so clearly this is not what it was referring to.
+
+I have /home/anne/.thunderbird/4upsp8fe.default/Mail/Local Folders/
+where there is absolutely nothing in the Inbox.  There is a Saved
+folder their, containing a single saved message.
+
+- -rw-------  1 anne users 28775 Jan 31 09:54 Saved
+- -rw-r--r--  1 anne users  2838 Jun 25 16:05 Saved.msf
+
+This is clearly carried over from my Fedora installation.
+
+- -rw-r-----  1 anne anne      0 Jun 22 11:36 Inbox
+- -rw-rw-r--  1 anne anne   2217 Jun 25 16:04 Inbox.msf
+
+I'm lost.
+
+Anne
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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail

+ Anne Wilson + annew at kde.org +
+ Mon Jun 25 17:18:36 CEST 2012 +

+
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+On 25/06/12 13:21, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
+> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:06:45 +0100 James Kerr
+> <jim at jkerr82508.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
+> 
+>> On 25/06/2012 12:54, James Kerr wrote:
+>>> On 25/06/2012 11:36, Anne Wilson wrote:
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+>>>> 
+>>>> Plain M2 :-)  Every time I started Thunderbird I got a
+>>>> message that it couldn't locate the local mail spool (can't
+>>>> remember the exact words). Assuming it meant
+>>>> /var/spool/mail/anne, I touched that, owned anne:mail (I
+>>>> tried root, too), but now the message is "Unable to truncate
+>>>> spool file /var/spool/mail/anne".
+>>>> 
+>>>> I don't have the problem on the Cauldron netbook, so I
+>>>> checked there, and there is no /var/spool/mail/anne - so I
+>>>> guess something has changed wrt local mail.  Are we now
+>>>> talking about ~/.local/share/local-mail/ ?  What do I need to
+>>>> do now?
+>>>> 
+>>> 
+>>> I don't have this problem. I use postfix to deliver system
+>>> mails to /var/spool/mail/jim. (I don't use it for any other
+>>> purpose.) Thunderbird collects those and stores them in 
+>>> ~/.thunderbird/xxx.default/Mail/localhost/inbox (where xxx is
+>>> an alphanumeric string). /var/spool/mail/jim is owned by jim.
+>>> 
+>>> The process is the same on both my Mageia2 and cauldron 
+>>> installations.
+>>> 
+>>> That error message suggests to me that there is something about
+>>> the file in /var/spool/mail/anne that is not what thunderbird
+>>> expects, but I've no idea what that might be. The only thought
+>>> I have is that for some reason that file is read only instead
+>>> of read/write.
+>>> 
+>>> Jim
+>>> 
+>> 
+>> Sorry - one point that I forgot to mention. /var/spool/mail/anne
+>> is only created when the first message is delivered and so
+>> thunderbird reports that it cannot find it until mails start
+>> being delivered to it.
+>> 
+>> 
+> But you use Postfix.  I use getmail.  Both deliver mail to
+> /var/spool/mail/user.  If Anne is downloading her mail directly
+> via POP, /var/spool/mail/anne will never be used.
+
+I have a dovecot IMAP server.  Procmail sorts the mail into
+directories on my server.  The only use I would expect in
+/var/spool/mail is if the system needs to send a message - and that
+normally would be to root.  Of course root is aliased to one of my
+mail accounts.
+
+> Kmail is like that.  In both cases, the mail is placed in the
+> appropriate place in $HOME. I am running getmail as user, so I had
+> to create /var/spool/mail/doug manually.  It is an mbox file, so
+> can be created with "touch."  Postfix runs as root, and can create
+> the spool if necessary.
+> 
+I did touch it - but I think it's really not relevant.
+
+> It did occur to me that the config screens may say what the
+> directories are, but it looks as though $HOME/.thunderbird is the
+> place to look.
+> 
+
+Thanks anyway
+
+Anne
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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail

+ Anne Wilson + annew at kde.org +
+ Mon Jun 25 17:20:00 CEST 2012 +

+
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+On 25/06/12 14:05, James Kerr wrote:
+> On 25/06/2012 13:28, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
+>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:21:24 +1000 Doug Laidlaw 
+>> <laidlaws at hotkey.net.au> wrote:
+>> 
+>>> But you use Postfix.  I use getmail.  Both deliver mail to 
+>>> /var/spool/mail/user.  If Anne is downloading her mail
+>>> directly via POP, /var/spool/mail/anne will never be used.
+>>> Kmail is like that.  In both cases, the mail is placed in the
+>>> appropriate place in $HOME. I am running getmail as user, so I
+>>> had to create /var/spool/mail/doug manually.  It is an mbox
+>>> file, so can be created with "touch." Postfix runs as root, and
+>>> can create the spool if necessary.
+>>> 
+>>> It did occur to me that the config screens may say what the 
+>>> directories are, but it looks as though $HOME/.thunderbird is 
+>>> the place to look.
+>>> 
+>>> Doug.
+>>> 
+>> Of course, if Anne _is_ using a local mail server, Thunderbird 
+>> must point to /var/spool/mail/anne.  But she can receive mail on 
+>> the notebook, where that file doesn't exist, so I assume she is 
+>> using straight POP or IMAP.
+>> 
+> 
+> If indeed Anne is using POP or IMAP to collect "local" mail then I 
+> don't think she needs to configure a Unix Movemail account in 
+> thunderbird. I believe it is that account that is looking at 
+> /var/spool/mail/anne. Perhaps she has such an account on Mageia 2
+> but not in cauldron, which would explain why she does not see the
+> error messages on cauldron.
+> 
+To be honest I don't recall ever hearing of movemail before this, so I
+don't know where it comes from.
+
+Anne
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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail

+ Remco Rijnders + remco at webconquest.com +
+ Mon Jun 25 17:29:31 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 04:18:36PM +0100, Anne wrote in 
+<4FE8814C.7020003 at kde.org>:
+>>>
+>> But you use Postfix.  I use getmail.  Both deliver mail to
+>> /var/spool/mail/user.  If Anne is downloading her mail directly
+>> via POP, /var/spool/mail/anne will never be used.
+>
+>I have a dovecot IMAP server.  Procmail sorts the mail into
+>directories on my server.  The only use I would expect in
+>/var/spool/mail is if the system needs to send a message - and that
+>normally would be to root.  Of course root is aliased to one of my
+>mail accounts.
+
+Hi Anne,
+
+So, if you use imap locally, as it sounds like you do, then Thunderbird 
+has no place in even trying to touch /var/spool/mail/anne . In this case, 
+if /var/spool/mail/anne is seperate from your regular mail account, I 
+think you may want to tell dovecot about it so it can serve it over imap 
+to thunderbird. Having postfix, dovecot, and thunderbird all trying to 
+access /var/spool/mail/anne and even attempting locks on it might give all 
+sort of issues.
+
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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail

+ James Kerr + jim at jkerr82508.free-online.co.uk +
+ Mon Jun 25 17:31:31 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On 25/06/2012 15:43, Anne Wilson wrote:
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+> On 25/06/12 11:55, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
+>> On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 11:36:56 +0100 Anne Wilson <annew at kde.org>
+>> wrote:
+>>
+>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1
+>>>
+>>> Plain M2 :-)  Every time I started Thunderbird I got a message
+>>> that it couldn't locate the local mail spool (can't remember the
+>>> exact words). Assuming it meant /var/spool/mail/anne, I touched
+>>> that, owned anne:mail (I tried root, too), but now the message is
+>>> "Unable to truncate spool file /var/spool/mail/anne".
+>>>
+>>> I don't have the problem on the Cauldron netbook, so I checked
+>>> there, and there is no /var/spool/mail/anne - so I guess
+>>> something has changed wrt local mail.  Are we now talking about
+>>> ~/.local/share/local-mail/ ?  What do I need to do now?
+>>>
+>>> Anne - --
+>> /var/spool/mail/anne is the system mailbox for user anne.
+>> Thunderbird will be putting your mail somewhere else.  I suspect
+>> that it will be a dot-directory under /home/anne, perhaps a
+>> subdirectory of your .mozilla directory.
+>>
+>> I think that TB uses the mbox file format.  That means that your
+>> inbox will be one big file.  Perhaps TB is trying to delete the
+>> old mails, hence "truncate."
+>>
+> That makes sense, yes.  I had assumed that it was talking about system
+> messages, which I would expect to be in /var/spool/mail/anne.
+>
+
+System messages will be in /var/spool/mail/anne, only if your MTA is 
+configured to deliver them there. Otherwise, IIRC, they end up in /.
+
+Jim
+
+
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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail - SOLVED?

+ Anne Wilson + annew at kde.org +
+ Mon Jun 25 17:43:37 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
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+On 25/06/12 16:29, Remco Rijnders wrote:
+> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 04:18:36PM +0100, Anne wrote in 
+> <4FE8814C.7020003 at kde.org>:
+>>>> 
+>>> But you use Postfix.  I use getmail.  Both deliver mail to 
+>>> /var/spool/mail/user.  If Anne is downloading her mail directly
+>>>  via POP, /var/spool/mail/anne will never be used.
+>> 
+>> I have a dovecot IMAP server.  Procmail sorts the mail into 
+>> directories on my server.  The only use I would expect in 
+>> /var/spool/mail is if the system needs to send a message - and 
+>> that normally would be to root.  Of course root is aliased to
+>> one of my mail accounts.
+> 
+> Hi Anne,
+> 
+> So, if you use imap locally, as it sounds like you do, then 
+> Thunderbird has no place in even trying to touch
+> /var/spool/mail/anne . In this case, if /var/spool/mail/anne is
+> seperate from your regular mail account, I think you may want to
+> tell dovecot about it so it can serve it over imap to thunderbird.
+> Having postfix, dovecot, and thunderbird all trying to access
+> /var/spool/mail/anne and even attempting locks on it might give all
+> sort of issues.
+> 
+Hi, Remmy.  No, the IMAP server is on a different box.  This laptop is
+pure client.
+
+It's odd, but I may have solved the problem.  That said, I still don't
+understand why.  During the time I've been trying to solve this, I
+have made two changes.  First I added a newline character in
+/var/spool/mail/anne - this seems to have disappeared, so I doubt if
+that was the reason.  The other change was to make the ownership
+anne:mail.  Maybe that helped?  I don't know.
+
+I tried Frank's strace suggestion - and saw practically nothing
+(Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"), so I tried
+logging out and in, and restarting, to see if the problem was
+triggered by first-time use in either of these situations, but I
+didn't get the message on either occasion.  Perhaps it's cured.
+
+Anne
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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail - SOLVED?

+ Remco Rijnders + remco at webconquest.com +
+ Mon Jun 25 17:47:36 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 04:43:37PM +0100, Anne wrote in 
+<4FE88729.4080506 at kde.org>:
+>> So, if you use imap locally, as it sounds like you do, then
+>> Thunderbird has no place in even trying to touch
+>> /var/spool/mail/anne . In this case, if /var/spool/mail/anne is
+>> seperate from your regular mail account, I think you may want to
+>> tell dovecot about it so it can serve it over imap to thunderbird.
+>> Having postfix, dovecot, and thunderbird all trying to access
+>> /var/spool/mail/anne and even attempting locks on it might give all
+>> sort of issues.
+>>
+>Hi, Remmy.  No, the IMAP server is on a different box.  This laptop is
+>pure client.
+>
+>It's odd, but I may have solved the problem.  That said, I still don't
+>understand why.  During the time I've been trying to solve this, I
+>have made two changes.  First I added a newline character in
+>/var/spool/mail/anne - this seems to have disappeared, so I doubt if
+>that was the reason.  The other change was to make the ownership
+>anne:mail.  Maybe that helped?  I don't know.
+
+Well, glad to hear it is solved! I have the feeling the permissions / 
+ownership may have had the most to do with it, but as I don't know what 
+they were like priorly, that's just a guess.
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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail

+ Doug Laidlaw + laidlaws at hotkey.net.au +
+ Mon Jun 25 17:54:20 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Mon, 25 Jun 2012 16:20:00 +0100
+Anne Wilson <annew at kde.org> wrote:
+
+> >> Of course, if Anne _is_ using a local mail server, Thunderbird 
+> >> must point to /var/spool/mail/anne.  But she can receive mail on 
+> >> the notebook, where that file doesn't exist, so I assume she is 
+> >> using straight POP or IMAP.
+> >>   
+> > 
+> > If indeed Anne is using POP or IMAP to collect "local" mail then I 
+> > don't think she needs to configure a Unix Movemail account in 
+> > thunderbird. I believe it is that account that is looking at 
+> > /var/spool/mail/anne. Perhaps she has such an account on Mageia 2
+> > but not in cauldron, which would explain why she does not see the
+> > error messages on cauldron.
+> >   
+> To be honest I don't recall ever hearing of movemail before this, so I
+> don't know where it comes from.
+> 
+> Anne
+
+Me either.  "Local" mail, the mail that collects in /var/spool/mail, is
+often generated by the system.  I have 3 user accounts (one for a user
+that no longer exists.)  Postfix was installed because something
+else needs it, and has a mailbox as well.  At the moment postfix has 500
+KB in it, which will all be system messages that I don't worry about.
+The others are all empty.  My doug account was cleaned out when I read
+mail with Claws.
+
+If you have a mail server on your computer, that collects mail from the
+Web and distributes it to users on your network, it will be placed
+initially in /var/spool/mail/xxxx.  I use getmail to put it there then
+run it through dspam, to filter out the spam.  Before then, I just
+downloaded my mail by POP straight into ~/.kde4/kmail/mail.  You will
+be doing much the same.  IMAP seems to use dovecot or similar, but I
+know nothing about it.  My ISP supports IMAP, but I don't need it.  It
+seems to have value only for people who get their mail at different
+locations.
+
+I suppose that if you are like me, you have run through your Thunderbird
+config a dozen times.  I am inclined to copy the working config
+you have on the notebook, but others tell me it is bad practice.  You
+need to tell Thunderbird to collect mail from your ISP, but your
+problem seems to have something to do with permissions.  It should be
+able to read your "anne" mailbox in the spool and truncate it, because
+it should be owned by user anne and group mail, but for a simple POP
+account, it should be looking at one of the files in
+ /home/anne/.thunderbird/4upsp8fe.default/Mail/Local Folders/  You
+ could try running "locate -i Inbox" to find out where your Inbox is.
+
+The other thought is that the 4upsp8fe.default is a user directory as
+with Mozilla.  Is there another one alongside it?  Thunderbird may be
+looking at the wrong one?
+
+You can redirect system mail, like my 500K in Postfix, to go to your
+user account.  I simply trust the system.
+
+Since I haven't used Thunderbird for a long time, I can't offer any
+specific help.
+
+Doug.
+
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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail

+ Juergen Harms + Juergen.Harms at unige.ch +
+ Mon Jun 25 18:05:01 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
hOn 06/25/2012 03:05 PM, James Kerr wrote:
+>
+> If indeed Anne is using POP or IMAP to collect "local" mail then I don't
+> think she needs to configure a Unix Movemail account in thunderbird. I
+> believe it is that account that is looking at /var/spool/mail/anne.
+> Perhaps she has such an account on Mageia 2 but not in cauldron, which
+> would explain why she does not see the error messages on cauldron.
+>
+> Jim
+
+On 06/25/2012 05:20 PM, Anne Wilson wrote:
+ > To be honest I don't recall ever hearing of movemail before this, so I
+ > don't know where it comes from.
+ >
+
+The answer from Jim is the essential thing - no need to mess around with 
+/var/spool/mailo/anne - Thunderbird can do all this for you, you just 
+need to create an additional Thunderbird account of type "Movemail". But 
+it may appear somewhat  devious to do this, Thunderbird playing 
+hide-and-seek with you:
+
+Try to come to the "Account actions" tab in Thunderbird and, there, hit 
+the "Add other accounts" button. That gives you a radio button, one of 
+its choices beeing "Unix Mailspool (Movemail)". Once you are there, you 
+should be on safe ground to create the special Thunderbird "Movemail" 
+account (what Thunderbird calls an "account") that collects mail from 
+the Unix /var/spool/mail/anne.
+
+Where Thunderbird stores the local folders for this account is a totally 
+independant issue, to set this up you proceed just as for ordinary 
+thunderbird accounts.
+
+I use such an account all the time to collect the messages created 
+locally, for instance by msec - works great.
+
+Juergen
+
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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail - SOLVED?

+ Frank Griffin + ftg at roadrunner.com +
+ Mon Jun 25 18:23:18 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On 06/25/2012 11:43 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
+> It's odd, but I may have solved the problem. That said, I still don't 
+> understand why. During the time I've been trying to solve this, I have 
+> made two changes. First I added a newline character in 
+> /var/spool/mail/anne - this seems to have disappeared, so I doubt if 
+> that was the reason. The other change was to make the ownership 
+> anne:mail. Maybe that helped?
+
+I thought you had posted earlier that you changed the ownership to 
+anne:mail and that didn't help ?  That is the correct ownership.
+
+If you're using IMAP through TB, your mail folders will be under 
+$HOME/.thunderbird/xxx.default/ImapMail/servername.  The problem you 
+describe with /var/spool/mail/anne can only occur if your MTA (postfix) 
+doesn't have write authority to that file.  In fact, I notice on my 
+system that my /var/spool/mail/ftg file has ownership ftg:mail, but the 
+permissions are only rw-------, so I guess postfix must be assuming an 
+euid of the recipient before trying to write to the file, i. e. the 
+group shouldn't matter.
+
+In any case, if you can do
+     mail anne
+     Subject: Test
+     line 1
+     CTRL-D
+
+and it gets through to /var/spool/mail/anne, then it's working.  If it's 
+not, try renaimng the file as root, rerun the test, and see what gets 
+created for that file.
+
+If you still see the message, try to identify what's issuing it. It's 
+possible that if TB somehow got hooked up with that file, it may be 
+trying to auto-compact it or something.
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-discuss] Problems with Local Mail - SOLVED

+ Doug Laidlaw + laidlaws at hotkey.net.au +
+ Mon Jun 25 18:36:09 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 01:54:20 +1000
+Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws at hotkey.net.au> wrote:
+
+> The other thought is that the 4upsp8fe.default is a user directory as
+> with Mozilla.  Is there another one alongside it?  Thunderbird may be
+> looking at the wrong one?
+> 
+
+My only other thought was to create a new profile.  I have done this
+with Mozilla.  The procedure for Thunderbird should be much the same,
+and will be on the Thunderbird page at mozilla.org.  It should get rid
+of any permission problems.  Since you may have it solved anyway, you
+probably don't need to take that step.
+
+Going to bed.  1t is 02:35 here.
+
+Doug.
+
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[Mageia-discuss] systemd and faxgetty

+ Jim Whitby + jim at whitby-jr.org +
+ Mon Jun 25 23:02:39 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On 06/21/2012 10:18 PM, Jim Whitby wrote:
+<snip>
+
+I have managed to put together the files needed for hylafax, probably 
+not optimal, but working.
+The server file ( hylafax-server.service) is placed in etc/systemd/system.
+Contains:
+
+[Unit]
+Description=Daemon for hylafax server
+After=syslog.target
+
+[Service]
+ExecStart=/usr/sbin/faxq
+Type=forking
+
+[Install]
+WantedBy=multi-user.target
+
+
+A template file ( faxgetty at .service ) is linked to 
+/etc/systemd/system/faxgetty at ttyS0.service.
+This will start a faxgetty on ttyS0 as a daemon and restart as needed.
+If I need another fax getty on ttyS1 then I just create a new link with 
+the name S1 instead of S0.
+
+The faxgetty (faxgetty at .service) file is in /lib/systemd/system
+Contains:
+
+[Unit]
+Description=Fax Getty on %I
+BindTo=dev-%i.device
+After=dev-%i.device systemd-user-sessions.service plymouth-quit-wait.service
+After=rc-local.service
+
+# If additional gettys are spawned during boot then we should make
+# sure that this is synchronized before getty.target, even though
+# getty.target didn't actually pull it in.
+Before=getty.target
+IgnoreOnIsolate=yes
+
+[Service]
+ExecStart=-/usr/sbin/faxgetty  %I
+Restart=always
+RestartSec=0
+UtmpIdentifier=%I
+TTYPath=/dev/%I
+TTYReset=yes
+TTYVHangup=yes
+KillMode=process
+IgnoreSIGPIPE=no
+
+# Some login implementations ignore SIGTERM, so we send SIGHUP
+# instead, to ensure that login terminates cleanly.
+KillSignal=SIGHUP
+
+I'm sure some of the above is not needed, but until someone who knows 
+more than me explains it, I'll leave it alone.
+
+
+-- 
+Programmers used to batch environments may find it hard to live without
+giant listings; we would find it hard to use them.
+		-- D.M. Ritchie
+----------------------
+Mageia release 2 (Official) for x86_64
+3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2 x86_64
+----------------------
+
+
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