[Mageia-discuss] Mageia 2 RC - Installation from a DVD with a beginner point of sight

Thu May 10 19:24:19 CEST 2012

Op donderdag 10 mei 2012 18:51:45 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
+> 2012/5/10 Maarten Vanraes <alien at rmail.be>:
+> > Op donderdag 10 mei 2012 18:16:11 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
+> >> 2012/5/10 Maarten Vanraes <alien at rmail.be>:
+> >> > Op donderdag 10 mei 2012 13:08:33 schreef Pierre Jarillon:
+> > [...]
+> > 
+> >> >> 3- After the installation,  it should be great to have a screen
+> >> >> saying: - you may select the sources of software and for example,
+> >> >> unselect the CD/DVD, add the non-free, the tainted and their updates
+> >> >> which are necessary to allow flash and mp4.
+> >> > 
+> >> > I think it might be nice for a screen there (before updates) to select
+> >> > cdrom (by default off), network sources (by default on) and maybe a
+> >> > few subcheckboxes below (nonfree, tainted, backports) which could be
+> >> > unselected by default. Possibly an advanced window here to have
+> >> > manual selection of mirror.
+> >> 
+> >> Not possible for people who do not have network up during installation
+> >> (lots of wifi users).
+> > 
+> > imho the network shouldn't need to be up to select this:
+> > 
+> > this is what you'd get:
+> > 
+> > [  ] DVD
+> > [X] Network
+> >      [X] Updates
+> >      [  ] Backports
+> >      [  ] Nonfree
+> >      [  ] Tainted
+> 
+> Network must be up to download the hdlists. Otherwise you need to
+> change the whole system, like after reboot after installation check
+> continuously for network ceonnection (until success) and then download
+> the hdlists.
+> You also need a network connection to select a dedicated mirror.
+> 
+> > there could even be a detection that if network is down, DVD would also
+> > be selected.
+> > i see no reason why we should not enable network sources if there's no
+> > network, shouldn't it fallback to the DVD then?
+> 
+> This makes no sense because the needed packages of tainted and
+> non-free are not on the DVD anyway. And as soon as the user reboots he
+> has to unmark the DVD anyway.
+> 
+> Of course, everything is possible, but the question is whether it
+> makes sense to do such major "refactoring". The setting up of sources
+> is almost automatical once you rebooted your system. A popup of the
+> update icon will tell you that there is no sources configured yet. If
+> you answer with "Yes" to the related question, the setup will be done
+> with mirrorlist. See: newbie-friendly. All you have to do then is to
+> activate the non-free and tainted repos, which is (as already written)
+> an "opt-in" task and can't be done by default.
+
+
+you have a point, i forgot that we have the popup no sources configured.
+
+imho maybe we can change this popup to have extra opt-in checkboxes for 
+nonfree and tainted
+