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[Mageia-discuss] A proposal of some kind to get point of views & comments

+ William Tracy + afishionado at gmail.com +
+ Sat Apr 21 01:00:34 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb <
+sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com> wrote:
+
+> As for the PPA's themselves or the something like it, would need a website
+> for it like they have for Ubuntu https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas and
+> they should only be offered on the site from people who have gone through
+> the Mageia packaging process and become trusted packagers I think.
+>
+>
+My understanding was that part of the attraction of Ubuntu's PPAs was that
+any registered user could create one, making it an easy way for developers
+to distribute their software until Ubuntu proper gets around to creating an
+official package.
+
+
+William Tracy
+afishionado at gmail.com
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[Mageia-discuss] mga2 testing - installing proprietary driver for nvidia card

+ Len Lawrence + tarazed25 at gmail.com +
+ Sat Apr 21 01:14:33 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
This is for Anssi really but other users might be interested.  Having 
+successfully installed the 295.33 driver under Mageia 1 I am assuming 
+that the same package generator script can be used on Mageia 2. Going to 
+use it anyway.
+
+Len
+
+
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[Mageia-discuss] A proposal of some kind to get point of views & comments

+ Sebastian sebsebseb + sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com +
+ Sat Apr 21 02:56:45 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On 21/04/12 00:00, William Tracy wrote:
+>
+> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb 
+> <sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com <mailto:sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com>> wrote:
+>
+>     As for the PPA's themselves or the something like it, would need a
+>     website for it like they have for Ubuntu
+>     https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas and they should only be offered
+>     on the site from people who have gone through the Mageia packaging
+>     process and become trusted packagers I think.
+>
+>
+> My understanding was that part of the attraction of Ubuntu's PPAs was 
+> that any registered user could create one, making it an easy way for 
+> developers to distribute their software until Ubuntu proper gets 
+> around to creating an official package.
+
+Yes that's correct anyone that knows how can make a PPA for Ubuntu. As 
+for registration I think that has never been needed to make PPA's for 
+Ubuntu.
+
+Users of any PPA have to trust the person or people who made it, that 
+they aren't getting malicious software from the PPA.  So on a official 
+Mageia PPA's or something like PPA's sub site, they could be offered, 
+but I think should only be from people who have gone through the Mageia 
+packaging process and that are trusted, as I suggested in the other message.
+
+With Ubuntu Some PPA's used to be sort of supported by the Ubuntu 
+Community, more recently in general PPA's with Ubuntu are supported 
+more, because the software centre can install them for example.
+
+Before PPA's if I remember correctly Wine used to have a special repo 
+for Ubuntu, but for a rather long time those that want the very latest 
+final version can install the PPA instead. Pidgin also offers a PPA and 
+has done for a rather long time for it's latest final version.
+
+With Ubuntu 11.04 which uses GNOME 2 with their patches as the fall back 
+mode, and Unity on top of GNOME 2 as the default, there was also a PPA 
+made for GNOME 3. I tried the PPA out in both Beta 2 and the final I 
+think, and it didn't work that well for me, and this seems to have been 
+the case for a lot of other people as well, but it was known to be buggy.
+
+So put simply all a PPA tends to be is a way for users to easily install 
+later versions of software without having to use a development version 
+of the distribution that offers a later version of the software that is 
+wanted.  Or without waiting until the next version of the distribution.
+
+PPA's are repo's as a result the software in those repo's will be 
+updated usually at times, and proper updates not just security.
+
+With PPA's it's ok for them to be buggy as mentioned in my previous 
+email, because unlike backports they probably haven't gone through a 
+proper QA process.
+
+Backports from Cauldron to Mageia 2  it seems will probably start being 
+offered soon after Mageia 2 has been released, but I don't know for 
+sure. However I do think that having something like PPA's as well for 
+Mageia would be quite a good thing indeed! As long as users understand 
+that they may be buggy, and shouldn't be relied on to much if wanting 
+loads of later software, than what the current latest stable version of 
+Mageia at the time is offering.  Many Mageia users who would like a lot 
+of later versions of software than what the repo's of a final version of 
+Mageia has, should probably be running Cauldron instead really.
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[Mageia-discuss] Configuring external monitor display

+ Anne Wilson + annew at kde.org +
+ Sat Apr 21 10:07:56 CEST 2012 +

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+On 20/04/12 20:16, Liam R E Quin wrote:
+> On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 20:04 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
+> 
+>>> On some laptops there's a function key that switches. On mine
+>>> (HP Elitebook/NVidia GT216 Quadra FX 880M) it doesn't, but I
+>>> found a package called "disper" that provides a command-line
+>>> program called disper that works very well.
+>>> 
+>> That sounds like the function key to switch between internal and
+>>  external monitor.  Fn+F5 is supposed to cycle between internal,
+>>  external or both, but it doesn't work.
+> 
+> Doesn't work for me either in Linux, but I can have a launcher
+> (gnome 2) that runs disper -S to use the secondary screen, and
+> another that runs disper -s to go back, or disper -e to extend the
+> desktop to both.
+> 
+> ATI (OK, AMD) drivers seem to have better xrandr support than 
+> nvidia, but I still find "disper" more convenient than the GUI.
+> E.g. get up to give a talk and double click an icon to start
+> projecting.
+> 
+I previously ran Fedora 14 on this netbook, and while the display wasn't
+ideal - slightly fuzzy in fact - I could get the whole screen, so it's
+not inherently a can't-do-it-in-linux problem.  I'll look at disper today.
+
+Anne
+- -- 
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+http://userbase.kde.org or
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[Mageia-discuss] Cauldron : firefox and drakconf are ugly

+ Thibaut FRANCOIS + thibautf at gmail.com +
+ Sat Apr 21 11:41:32 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
Hi,
+
+It seems I did a bad manipulation in cauldron, since yesterday firefox and
+drakconf are ugly, see
+here<http://thibautfrancois.fr/capture/captureFirefox.png>.
+Libreoffice is ok.
+I checked oxygen-gtk et oxygen-gtk3, they are installed on my system.
+
+Do you have any idea to fixe that ?
+
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[Mageia-discuss] Cauldron : firefox and drakconf are ugly

+ Moreau Serge + serge.moreau at wanadoo.fr +
+ Sat Apr 21 12:04:37 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
Le samedi 21 avril 2012 11:41:32, Thibaut FRANCOIS a écrit :
+> Hi,
+> 
+> It seems I did a bad manipulation in cauldron, since yesterday firefox and
+> drakconf are ugly, see
+> here<http://thibautfrancois.fr/capture/captureFirefox.png>.
+> Libreoffice is ok.
+> I checked oxygen-gtk et oxygen-gtk3, they are installed on my system.
+> 
+> Do you have any idea to fixe that ?
+> 
+> Regards,
+> Thibaut
+gtk-qt-kcm which is not installed ?
+
+ + + + +
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[Mageia-discuss] Cauldron : firefox and drakconf are ugly

+ Thibaut FRANCOIS + thibautf at gmail.com +
+ Sat Apr 21 12:58:06 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
t's fixed. :-)
+I installed gtk-qt-kcm and after in the kcm I chose oxygne-gtk style.
+I also removed all the ia_ora file. And now ot's ok
+
+Thank you !
+
+2012/4/21 Moreau Serge <serge.moreau at wanadoo.fr>
+
+> Le samedi 21 avril 2012 11:41:32, Thibaut FRANCOIS a écrit :
+> > Hi,
+> >
+> > It seems I did a bad manipulation in cauldron, since yesterday firefox
+> and
+> > drakconf are ugly, see
+> > here<http://thibautfrancois.fr/capture/captureFirefox.png>.
+> > Libreoffice is ok.
+> > I checked oxygen-gtk et oxygen-gtk3, they are installed on my system.
+> >
+> > Do you have any idea to fixe that ?
+> >
+> > Regards,
+> > Thibaut
+> gtk-qt-kcm which is not installed ?
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[Mageia-discuss] Beta testing - wireless adapter

+ Morgan Leijström + fri at tribun.eu +
+ Sat Apr 21 15:08:02 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
fredagen den 20 april 2012 22.53.02 skrev  Len Lawrence:
+> Atheros 9285 wireless adapter
+> 
+> This was flaky under Mageia 1 - kept dropping the connection but most
+> times would not connect at all.  It is also a chestnut; many people
+> reported problems with it on the Ubuntu forums.  Some fixes worked for
+> Ubuntu users but not here on Mageia 1.  The problem persists in
+> mga2b3.
+> 
+> Len
+
+It is always good to search bugzilla and the forum,
+to find solutions and give feedback.
+
+Do this help? :
+https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2366#c23
+
+Please comment on that bug if it works or not for you.
+-- 
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+
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[Mageia-discuss] Beta testing - wireless adapter

+ Len Lawrence + tarazed25 at gmail.com +
+ Sat Apr 21 18:05:06 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On 21/04/12 14:08, Morgan Leijström wrote:
+> fredagen den 20 april 2012 22.53.02 skrev  Len Lawrence:
+>> Atheros 9285 wireless adapter
+>>
+>> This was flaky under Mageia 1 - kept dropping the connection but most
+>> times would not connect at all.  It is also a chestnut; many people
+>> reported problems with it on the Ubuntu forums.  Some fixes worked for
+>> Ubuntu users but not here on Mageia 1.  The problem persists in
+>> mga2b3.
+>>
+>> Len
+> It is always good to search bugzilla and the forum,
+> to find solutions and give feedback.
+>
+> Do this help? :
+> https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2366#c23
+>
+> Please comment on that bug if it works or not for you.
+I think I tried blocking network manager under Mageia 1 and it did not 
+help.  Right now I have bigger problems like no graphics after Live 
+install so will follow it up later.
+
+
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[Mageia-discuss] Success with Kontact/4.8.2

+ Anne Wilson + annew at kde.org +
+ Sat Apr 21 19:16:03 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
Determined to have a clean install on my netbook in time for my 
+holiday, I installed Mageia beta3.  This was quickly updated to KDE 
+4.8.2, including kdepim.  Almost everything is working perfectly - almost, 
+in that I can't connect to my Google contacts, but that's not the end of 
+the world.
+
+KMail is accessing both Googlemail and my own IMAP server, set up as a 
+Roaming profile for while I'm away.  No long waits, nothing going missing 
+and all apparently working perfectly.
+
+Calendar - I'm using my Google calendar - useful as it is on my phone 
+too.  The new connection facility is unbelievably slick.  Thanks for that! 
+:-)  The only downside is that the calendar is rather slow to load.  I had 
+just decided it must be broken when things started to appear.
+
+Contacts - I copied all the vcards from my main laptop onto the 
+netbook.  I seem to have lost the few cards that were in the top-level 
+Personal Contacts, but the folders below it are all there.  The old 
+std.vcf also works fine.
+
+Akregator appears to have picked up all my old feeds - copied in from 
+the older Fedora 14 install.  I haven't had time to work with it, but it 
+looks fine, and notifications tell me that new feed entries are arriving.
+
+All in all, this is a huge relief, as my main laptop went down this morning  
+and looks totally dead :-(  Still, at least this netbook, Mageia, and the 
+new Kontact are going to get me through.
+
+Thanks to all, both at Mageia and in the Kontact team
+
+Anne
+
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[Mageia-discuss] Configuring external monitor display

+ Richard + richardwest at leiston.info +
+ Sat Apr 21 00:12:23 CEST 2012 +

+
+ +
On Friday 20 Apr 2012 19:48:24 Anne Wilson wrote:
+> On 19/04/12 19:31, Richard wrote:
+> > On Thursday 19 Apr 2012 19:12:35 Anne Wilson wrote:
+> >> On 19/04/12 17:04, Anne Wilson wrote:
+> >>> I like to use an external monitor when doing more serious work
+> >>> on my netbook. As far as I can see there is nothing in MCC for
+> >>> setting that up, so I assume I have to use System Settings.
+> >>> However, that too only offers me the settings for the
+> >>> netbook's display.
+> >>> 
+> >>> I've looked at xorg.conf which also only has the settings for
+> >>> the netbook screen. Am I right in thinking that I have to get
+> >>> xrandr to get this working correctly? At the moment I can clone
+> >>> the screen, but that means that only 80% of the screen is
+> >>> visible, a real pain.
+> >>> 
+> >>> I'm using beta 3, and package management seems to be
+> >>> problematic at the moment.
+> >> 
+> >> Package management is now working - it looks as though the
+> >> mirror was down when I tried it (several times) earlier today.
+> >> 
+> >> It seems that xrandr is already installed, so that isn't the
+> >> problem.
+> >> 
+> >> The netbook screen is correctly set to
+> >> 
+> >> 1280x720, refresh 60.4 Hz
+> >> 
+> >> The external monitor, a Samsung SyncMaster 193v is set to
+> >> 
+> >> 1024x768, refresh 60 Hz.
+> >> 
+> >> That should be 1280x1024, refresh 75Hz.
+> >> 
+> >> Does anyone know how I can set this up?
+> >> 
+> >> Anne
+> > 
+> > If you are running KDE, have you tried the KDE Systemsettings >
+> > Display and Monitor > Size and Orientation ?
+> > 
+> > 
+> > I have used that to set up a separate monitor on my laptop.
+> 
+> Yes, System Settings appears to be where the size information is kept.
+> It doesn't offer me any other resolution.  Long ago I recall editing
+> exorg.conf, entering modelines from the monitor manual, but I'm not
+> sure whether it is still safe to do this.  I have seen Internet
+> instructions on setting separate screens, so that the external monitor
+> can use the higher resolution.  I wonder whether that's still safe?
+> 
+> Mike, I don't have Gnome set up on the netbook.  If there's a real
+> chance that the Display Settings there could handle this, I'll install it.
+> 
+> Anne
+Sorry misclicked the attachment.
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