[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot

Wed Apr 11 14:10:43 CEST 2012

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 01:47:51PM +0200, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+> 2012/4/11 Olav Vitters <olav at vitters.nl>:
+> > On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 06:17:32AM -0400, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote:
+> >> On Wednesday 11 Apr 2012 05:35 my mailbox was graced by a message from Olav
+> >> Vitters who wrote:
+> >> >  I don't see how excluding documentation makes things more practical.
+> >>
+> >> As in "more practical to have diskspace available for data, than have it used
+> >> up by documentation I will not need" ?
+> >
+> > You're speaking about yourself. I am speaking in general. How is it more
+> > practical that the documentation is not available? You raise disk space.
+> > I see that as a benefit if you have a small amount of disk space. But I
+> > don't see how that makes not including documentation practical. Might be
+> > practical to have the installer automatically detect a small amount of
+> > disk space and exclude documentation. But in general not having any
+> > documentation available is not practical at all; you have to rely on an
+> > internet connection, hope that the documentation is available online,
+> > furthermore you have to search for it.
+> >
+> > Not installing documentation,  might be some reasons for it, but
+> > 'practical': I don't see it.
+> 
+> The question whether having documentation ready or not is based on
+> individual preferences, there is no general consensus about that as
+> you pretend when you claim to "speak in general". At least this is
+
+That is not what I was after.
+
+I said that minimizing disk space is a preference. A way to achieve that
+is to exclude documentation. Minimizing disk space might be practical in
+some cases. But that doesn't mean that if by default / in general / for
+everyone the documentation is excluded, that this exclusion is somehow
+logical. Or: A -> B doesn't mean B -> A.
+
+> what this thread told us. In my understanding the point of this whole
+> discussion is to find a way to cater to both sides, (A) having
+> documentation ready if you want it but also (B) being able to *easily*
+> avoid it if you don't want it. At the moment this issue is not solved
+> for (A) AND (B), only for (A).
+
+Seems you're just repeating what I suggested: if there is a need, check
+if it can be possible.
+
+At the moment the only concern seems to be disk space. If that is the
+only reason, just do it automatically and/or have a special disk space
+concious section. Fully analysing why to exclude would allow that will
+ensure it is there when expected, instead of just being an option you
+have to search for.
+
+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
+