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[Mageia-discuss] Appearance of the Mageia-installer

+ Kristoffer Grundstrom + kristoffer.grundstrom1983 at gmail.com +
+ Thu Jan 19 00:51:06 CET 2012 +

+
+ +
2012-01-15 23:19, Morgan Leijström skrev:
+> I would prefer to look at it as little as possible:
+>
+> 1) Let it examine my hardware
+> 2) Let me make choices
+> 3) Let me have coffee (while it installs)
+> 4) show me a result summary before i press reboot
+>
+> Not too far off from present, although some steps between choices take too much
+> time
+>
+> There are more important things, like having it install to existing LVM and
+> encrypted partitions.
+>
+> /Morgan
+>
+> söndagen den 15 januari 2012 22.38.32 skrev  Kristoffer Grundstrom:
+>> Hi!
+>>
+>> I have an idea that might sound crazy.
+>>
+>> The entire installation-process from stage1 to before you reboot Mageia
+>> the first time looks soooooooooo booring.
+>>
+>> Now to my ideaon how to make it better.
+>>
+>> Take a look at all installers no matter if it's Windows or Mac or Linux
+>> &  take each best part of that&  create a beautiful installer to enhance
+>> the feeling of the distro.
+>>
+>> I also like to see a competition (with glory as price) on who can create
+>> the best look&  best feel in a new installer.
+>>
+>> Perhaps then let users choose wether they'd install using the current
+>> appearance or the new apperarance before they start to install.
+>>
+>> Let me know what you think&  your ideas on how to build such installer.
+So, to enchance the installer what do you suggest?
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Appearance of the Mageia-installer

+ Liam R E Quin + liam at holoweb.net +
+ Thu Jan 19 01:31:19 CET 2012 +

+
+ +
On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 00:51 +0100, Kristoffer Grundstrom wrote:
+
+> >> Let me know what you think&  your ideas on how to build such installer.
+> So, to enchance the installer what do you suggest?
+
+During "grey bar" periods, display information about benefits of Mageia,
+usage tips, maybe describe some popular software, some benefits of
+Free/libre software?
+
+
+-- 
+Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/
+Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/
+Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org freenode/#xml
+
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Glitch with nvidia FX 5500 card driver

+ TJ + andrewsfarm at gmail.com +
+ Thu Jan 19 03:43:49 CET 2012 +

+
+ +
I recently installed Mageia 1 on an older desktop with an Athlon XP 
+2200+ processor, 512 MB of RAM, and a 128MB BFG nvidia FX5500 AGP card 
+with VGA-only output running a new Samsung 1600x900 LCD monitor. I 
+instructed Mageia to install the proprietary nvidia driver from the 
+repositories, as I always have done with Mandriva in the past. 
+Previously, this setup had been running Mandriva 2010.2 with a 1024x768 
+CRT monitor with no problems.
+
+At first things seemed to be OK, a little slow maybe, but OK. But then I 
+noticed that when I went to bring up a menu or a dialog box, the 
+contents of the box would be scrambled for a second, then straighten out.
+
+At first I thought there might be insufficient RAM to handle the higher 
+resolution. After checking into things I saw swap was being used far 
+more than it should, which only seemed to confirm it. So I bought 2GB of 
+RAM, the maximum this motherboard would handle, and installed it. The 
+swap usage problem was cured and things sped up a bit, but the scrambled 
+menus were still there.
+
+After that, I tried turning off the desktop effects, but that was even 
+worse in its own way because while the menu scrambling wasn't as 
+prominent, when I went to shut things down the background went away and 
+something from out of an old cache was displayed.
+
+So then it seemed like it had to be the card. Maybe the card didn't have 
+enough memory, was too slow, or I needed a DVI output. I bought a 256MB 
+BFG Geforce 6200OC card, and installed it, switching to the DVI port it 
+had. MCC detected the card, but I still had to instruct it that I wanted 
+to use the proprietary driver. Three packages were installed, and I was 
+instructed that I had to reboot before they'd take effect.
+
+So I rebooted, taking note as I did so that the scrambling problem was 
+still there with the new car when it used the old driver. After 
+rebooting with the correct driver, the problem disappeared completely. 
+All is now well.
+
+All the above verbiage leads me to now believe that there's something 
+wrong with the nvidia FX driver currently in use by Mageia 1. If you've 
+stuck with me this far I hope you agree. I thought somebody should know.
+
+Since the problem has been circumvented, I have no desire to pursue a 
+different solution. Disrupting my brother's computing experience by 
+removing a card that's working, putting in a card that didn't to test 
+some new patch or other, then replacing the new card again doesn't sound 
+like the best way to family harmony to me, so I'm not going to even 
+entertain the idea of doing so.
+
+But perhaps someone else can benefit from my experience. I hope so.
+
+TJ
+
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Glitch with nvidia FX 5500 card driver

+ Luca Olivetti + luca at ventoso.org +
+ Thu Jan 19 09:55:58 CET 2012 +

+
+ +
Al 19/01/2012 3:43, En/na TJ ha escrit:
+>
+> After that, I tried turning off the desktop effects, but that was even
+> worse in its own way because while the menu scrambling wasn't as
+> prominent, when I went to shut things down the background went away and
+> something from out of an old cache was displayed.
+
+Something similar is happening here, when the shutdown menu shows, the 
+background is "scrambled" (colored noise), but it's a completely 
+different card (an acer aspire 722 with a radeon hd6250) with a 
+completely different driver (catalyst driver downloaded from amd, the 
+one from the repositories didn't work).
+I didn't touch desktop effects at all, so I cannot say if they are 
+enabled or not.
+Maybe the root cause of the problem is similar.
+-- 
+Luca
+
+ + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva in danger of closing its doors

+ Doug Laidlaw + laidlaws at hotkey.net.au +
+ Thu Jan 19 10:46:55 CET 2012 +

+
+ +
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 01:19:16 PM mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org wrote:
+> On 01/06/2012 02:49 PM, Doug Lytle wrote:
+> > Interesting:
+> > 
+> > http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/238291/mandriva-danger-closi
+> > ng-its-doors
+> > 
+> > 
+> > Doug
+> 
+> Curiouser and curiouser:
+> 
+> http://blog.mandriva.com/en/2012/01/17/the-future/
+> 
+> TJ
+> 
+Sounds as though Mandriva are keeping the cards as close to their chest as 
+ever.
+
+Doug.
+
+ + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Mandriva in danger of closing its doors

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Thu Jan 19 10:50:37 CET 2012 +

+
+ +
2012/1/19 Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws at hotkey.net.au>:
+> On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 01:19:16 PM mageia-discuss-request at mageia.org wrote:
+>> On 01/06/2012 02:49 PM, Doug Lytle wrote:
+>> > Interesting:
+>> >
+>> > http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/238291/mandriva-danger-closi
+>> > ng-its-doors
+>> >
+>> >
+>> > Doug
+>>
+>> Curiouser and curiouser:
+>>
+>> http://blog.mandriva.com/en/2012/01/17/the-future/
+>>
+>> TJ
+>>
+> Sounds as though Mandriva are keeping the cards as close to their chest as
+> ever.
+
+This time it is quite normal. In case of a merger or acquisition both
+parties keep quiet until the papers are signed or the negotiations
+fail.
+
+-- 
+wobo
+
+ + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Glitch with nvidia FX 5500 card driver

+ Florian Hubold + doktor5000 at arcor.de +
+ Thu Jan 19 11:51:06 CET 2012 +

+
+ +
Am 19.01.2012 09:55, schrieb Luca Olivetti:
+> Al 19/01/2012 3:43, En/na TJ ha escrit:
+>>
+>> After that, I tried turning off the desktop effects, but that was even
+>> worse in its own way because while the menu scrambling wasn't as
+>> prominent, when I went to shut things down the background went away and
+>> something from out of an old cache was displayed.
+>
+> Something similar is happening here, when the shutdown menu shows, the
+> background is "scrambled" (colored noise), but it's a completely different
+> card (an acer aspire 722 with a radeon hd6250) with a completely different
+> driver (catalyst driver downloaded from amd, the one from the repositories
+> didn't work).
+> I didn't touch desktop effects at all, so I cannot say if they are enabled or
+> not.
+> Maybe the root cause of the problem is similar.
+nonfree radeon-firmware package is installed, and either the initrds have been
+regenerated since (via "bootloader-config --action rebuild-initrds" as root)
+or you've done a kernel update since?
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Glitch with nvidia FX 5500 card driver

+ Luca Olivetti + luca at ventoso.org +
+ Thu Jan 19 12:05:18 CET 2012 +

+
+ +
Al 19/01/2012 11:51, En/na Florian Hubold ha escrit:
+> Am 19.01.2012 09:55, schrieb Luca Olivetti:
+>> Al 19/01/2012 3:43, En/na TJ ha escrit:
+>>>
+>>> After that, I tried turning off the desktop effects, but that was even
+>>> worse in its own way because while the menu scrambling wasn't as
+>>> prominent, when I went to shut things down the background went away and
+>>> something from out of an old cache was displayed.
+>>
+>> Something similar is happening here, when the shutdown menu shows, the
+>> background is "scrambled" (colored noise), but it's a completely different
+>> card (an acer aspire 722 with a radeon hd6250) with a completely different
+>> driver (catalyst driver downloaded from amd, the one from the repositories
+>> didn't work).
+>> I didn't touch desktop effects at all, so I cannot say if they are enabled or
+>> not.
+>> Maybe the root cause of the problem is similar.
+> nonfree radeon-firmware package is installed, and either the initrds have been
+> regenerated since (via "bootloader-config --action rebuild-initrds" as root)
+> or you've done a kernel update since?
+
+No kernel updates, I just let harddrake install the propietary module 
+and it didn't work (it didn't recognize the card and fell back to vesa).
+I then downloaded the catalyst driver from amd and used its installer 
+(which probably messed up the system but it seems to work, though it 
+doesn't come back after a suspend).
+According to this page
+http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/202-ubuntu-acer-ao722
+the free driver should also work (and should have no problem with 
+suspend/resume), but it needs mesa 7.11 while mageia has 7.10.
+
+Bye
+-- 
+Luca
+
+
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Glitch with nvidia FX 5500 card driver

+ Luca Olivetti + luca at ventoso.org +
+ Thu Jan 19 12:08:28 CET 2012 +

+
+ +
Al 19/01/2012 12:05, En/na Luca Olivetti ha escrit:
+> Al 19/01/2012 11:51, En/na Florian Hubold ha escrit:
+>> Am 19.01.2012 09:55, schrieb Luca Olivetti:
+>>> Al 19/01/2012 3:43, En/na TJ ha escrit:
+>>>>
+>>>> After that, I tried turning off the desktop effects, but that was even
+>>>> worse in its own way because while the menu scrambling wasn't as
+>>>> prominent, when I went to shut things down the background went away and
+>>>> something from out of an old cache was displayed.
+>>>
+>>> Something similar is happening here, when the shutdown menu shows, the
+>>> background is "scrambled" (colored noise), but it's a completely
+>>> different
+
+BTW, I don't want to hijack the thread, I was just pointing that it 
+seems strange to me that two very different cards with different driver 
+have the same graphical glitch.
+
+Bye
+-- 
+Luca
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Glitch with nvidia FX 5500 card driver

+ AL13N + alien at rmail.be +
+ Thu Jan 19 12:37:40 CET 2012 +

+
+ +
[...]
+> So then it seemed like it had to be the card. Maybe the card didn't have
+> enough memory, was too slow, or I needed a DVI output. I bought a 256MB
+> BFG Geforce 6200OC card, and installed it, switching to the DVI port it
+> had. MCC detected the card, but I still had to instruct it that I wanted
+> to use the proprietary driver. Three packages were installed, and I was
+> instructed that I had to reboot before they'd take effect.
+>
+> So I rebooted, taking note as I did so that the scrambling problem was
+> still there with the new car when it used the old driver. After
+> rebooting with the correct driver, the problem disappeared completely.
+> All is now well.
+>
+> All the above verbiage leads me to now believe that there's something
+> wrong with the nvidia FX driver currently in use by Mageia 1. If you've
+> stuck with me this far I hope you agree. I thought somebody should know.
+[...]
+
+this "new driver" what is it? is it, is it different from the one used
+before?
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Glitch with nvidia FX 5500 card driver

+ TJ + andrewsfarm at gmail.com +
+ Thu Jan 19 15:17:39 CET 2012 +

+
+ +
On 01/19/2012 06:37 AM, AL13N wrote:
+> [...]
+>> So then it seemed like it had to be the card. Maybe the card didn't have
+>> enough memory, was too slow, or I needed a DVI output. I bought a 256MB
+>> BFG Geforce 6200OC card, and installed it, switching to the DVI port it
+>> had. MCC detected the card, but I still had to instruct it that I wanted
+>> to use the proprietary driver. Three packages were installed, and I was
+>> instructed that I had to reboot before they'd take effect.
+>>
+>> So I rebooted, taking note as I did so that the scrambling problem was
+>> still there with the new car when it used the old driver. After
+>> rebooting with the correct driver, the problem disappeared completely.
+>> All is now well.
+>>
+>> All the above verbiage leads me to now believe that there's something
+>> wrong with the nvidia FX driver currently in use by Mageia 1. If you've
+>> stuck with me this far I hope you agree. I thought somebody should know.
+> [...]
+>
+> this "new driver" what is it? is it, is it different from the one used
+> before?
+>
+Sorry, I guess I wasn't as clear as I thought.
+
+The FX cards use a different nvidia driver than the 6000 series. When I 
+first booted with the 6200, the "new" card, Mageia was still using the 
+FX driver, the "old" driver. Using MCC, I had Mageia install the driver 
+for the 6000 series, the "new" driver, but it didn't take effect until I 
+did a reboot. So, when I began the restart process, Mageia was still 
+using the FX driver("old") with the card, and the 6200 card acted as the 
+FX card had. After the reboot Mageia was using the 6000 series 
+driver("new"), and all worked as it should.
+
+Hope that clears things up. Again, I'm sorry if I was confusing.
+
+TJ
+
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Glitch with nvidia FX 5500 card driver

+ Maarten Vanraes + alien at rmail.be +
+ Thu Jan 19 21:28:24 CET 2012 +

+
+ +
Op donderdag 19 januari 2012 15:17:39 schreef TJ:
+> On 01/19/2012 06:37 AM, AL13N wrote:
+> > [...]
+> > this "new driver" what is it? is it, is it different from the one used
+> > before?
+> 
+> Sorry, I guess I wasn't as clear as I thought.
+> 
+> The FX cards use a different nvidia driver than the 6000 series. When I
+> first booted with the 6200, the "new" card, Mageia was still using the
+> FX driver, the "old" driver. Using MCC, I had Mageia install the driver
+> for the 6000 series, the "new" driver, but it didn't take effect until I
+> did a reboot. So, when I began the restart process, Mageia was still
+> using the FX driver("old") with the card, and the 6200 card acted as the
+> FX card had. After the reboot Mageia was using the 6000 series
+> driver("new"), and all worked as it should.
+> 
+> Hope that clears things up. Again, I'm sorry if I was confusing.
+> 
+> TJ
+
+oic, so you think it's something that's fixed in nvidia-current, but nvidia-
+legacy still has this problem?
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Glitch with nvidia FX 5500 card driver

+ TJ + andrewsfarm at gmail.com +
+ Thu Jan 19 22:19:12 CET 2012 +

+
+ +
On 01/19/2012 03:28 PM, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+> Op donderdag 19 januari 2012 15:17:39 schreef TJ:
+>> On 01/19/2012 06:37 AM, AL13N wrote:
+>>> [...]
+>>> this "new driver" what is it? is it, is it different from the one used
+>>> before?
+>>
+>> Sorry, I guess I wasn't as clear as I thought.
+>>
+>> The FX cards use a different nvidia driver than the 6000 series. When I
+>> first booted with the 6200, the "new" card, Mageia was still using the
+>> FX driver, the "old" driver. Using MCC, I had Mageia install the driver
+>> for the 6000 series, the "new" driver, but it didn't take effect until I
+>> did a reboot. So, when I began the restart process, Mageia was still
+>> using the FX driver("old") with the card, and the 6200 card acted as the
+>> FX card had. After the reboot Mageia was using the 6000 series
+>> driver("new"), and all worked as it should.
+>>
+>> Hope that clears things up. Again, I'm sorry if I was confusing.
+>>
+>> TJ
+>
+> oic, so you think it's something that's fixed in nvidia-current, but nvidia-
+> legacy still has this problem?
+>
+Yes. I'm far from being an expert, but it appeared to me that there is a 
+problem with the nvidia 173.14.30 driver Mageia 1 uses for FX cards that 
+isn't in the nvidia-current (225?) driver. I don't know if it exists in 
+the 96xx driver, too.
+
+I apologize. I should have looked up the version numbers before my 
+original post.
+
+TJ
+
+
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