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(about American English in Mageia for British users)</H1> + <B>RICHARD WALKER</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20What%20is%20your%20motivation%3F%20%28about%20American%0A%20English%20in%20Mageia%20for%20British%20users%29&In-Reply-To=%3CCAJWAV%2BE7syJR-Y6EUhJQbHaCN4MRF2aAh2Ua4hMFG-LYvqhmMw%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] What is your motivation? (about American English in Mageia for British users)">richard.j.walker at ntlworld.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Jul 25 04:23:25 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="008321.html">[Mageia-discuss] What is your motivation? (about American English in Mageia for British users) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="008325.html">[Mageia-discuss] What is your motivation? 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Of course, any text which +would be displayed to the user I preferred to translate into English. + +Surely it is a similar problem when the "program" is a whole operating +system. If I expect my users to be of many nationalities then I would +also expect to have to do some translating. The consistency of which +you speak comes from having the translations expected by the +population of users. + +><i> And the fact is that the most common used language in the system is en_US +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Therefor it should be purified to *en_US* +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And all other en_* should be translations. +</I> +Again we seem to differ. I hope you didn't mean "purified", that's +probably just a mis-translation where something like "rationalised" or +"simplified" might have been a better choice. Where we really differ, +though, is in regarding all languages (with the exception of the US +variant of English) as being targets for translation. I would not +discriminate against our trans-atlantic cousins in that way. I would +include their language as a valid target for translation and then we +would all be equal. + +><i> +</I>><i> Also read the bug linked in Marjas post +</I>><i> +</I> +Yes, I have read it before. I even had a discussion along similar +lines a few years back on a Mandrake or Mandriva forum. It just +underlines the different approaches to the subject taken by +programmers and users (although I am sure there is some blurring round +the edges). Programmers are not necessarily linguists. Those who are +are may not have English as their native language. I suppose if we +were debating whether Castillian or Latin American Spanish should be +the default with the other requiring translation then I too might +wonder at all the fuss. Surely it couldn't matter to castellanos that +they must conform to Central & Southern America norms, could it? + +Sensitive cultural and social use of language is much too complex a +subject for people who focus on logic to understand, especially in a +foreign language. + +><i> +</I>><i> Or why not write all in lojban ;) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> /Morgan +</I> +Now you are getting the idea! Bravo. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="008321.html">[Mageia-discuss] What is your motivation? (about American English in Mageia for British users) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="008325.html">[Mageia-discuss] What is your motivation? 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