[Mageia-discuss] FSF anf UEFI SecureBoot

Sun Dec 30 22:36:20 CET 2012

Op zondag 30 december 2012 21:17:38 schreef Ludovic V Meyer:
+> Except it does let 3rd parties OS boot, at least on X86, since the norm
+> mandate it.
+> And for arm tablet, no one reacted when Apple, Acer, Samsung, Archos and
+> lots of others locked down their devices, so trying to argue that we now
+> expect them to be open would not work.
+
+actually, they didn't. you can root each of those iinm.
+
+this is about having a secure key hardcoded "burned" in the device, which is 
+both stupid and annoying. because since apps need to be secured too, too many 
+people have access to the root key. which means the chance of leak is higher. 
+which means that your devices need to be thrown out when the rootkey is 
+compromised or when it's deemed obsolete and a new key will be in place.
+
+the thing here is that since you buy a device, it's yours and you can do what 
+you want with it. why would you give other parties control over your device? 
+it's stupid. there needs to be a way as an owner to decide which root keys you 
+trust or not.
+
+
+> And regarding using consumer protection channels, no one did anything to
+> make anything move since one year despite being widely publicized on
+> various blogs, so how is your proposal different ?
+> 
+> Talk is cheap, if every people who proposed that ( for example, on slashdot
+> or various foras where nerds are discussing ), someone would have started
+> the work by the time. No one did, and that's because everybody that would
+> be serious enough know this is built on wrong assumptions.
+
+in the end talk is cheap and noone does anything about it. or rather instead 
+of working together, all the companies who back the major linuxes decide to go 
+down the easy route. (like subscribing into the microsoft program and using 
+their root key...)
+
+[...]
+
+PS: please don't toppost.
+