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[Mageia-discuss] Organization for local communites

+ Lucas.Betschart at crypto.ch + Lucas.Betschart at crypto.ch +
+ Tue Feb 22 11:24:25 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
	I'd like to ask if will be a section in mageia.org for local communities or will remain the same way as in forum.mandriva.com with redirections to the locale forums (except french that is 	integrated in the official forum)
+
+	What will be the needs for a local community ?
+	The wiki will be in the mageia.org, the central page (blog) will be translated as now, so we will need only a forum and/or a blog (for announces,articles about local events/issues) ?
+
+
+I like this idea. Then not every community needs to have their own webspace / server. All donations for the full infrastructur would go directly to the mageia association, not to the local communities.
+Also it would be clear for new user where to find help in every language. And there will be one "official" community (having more then 1 board for the same project is waste of knowhow, time, money etc.)
+
+--
+Lucas Betschart
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Organization for local communites

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Tue Feb 22 11:34:49 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
2011/2/22  <Lucas.Betschart at crypto.ch>:
+>        I'd like to ask if will be a section in mageia.org for local communities or will remain the same way as in forum.mandriva.com with redirections to the locale forums (except french that is     integrated in the official forum)
+>
+>        What will be the needs for a local community ?
+>        The wiki will be in the mageia.org, the central page (blog) will be translated as now, so we will need only a forum and/or a blog (for announces,articles about local events/issues) ?
+>
+>
+> I like this idea. Then not every community needs to have their own webspace / server. All donations for the full infrastructur would go directly to the mageia association, not to the local communities.
+> Also it would be clear for new user where to find help in every language. And there will be one "official" community (having more then 1 board for the same project is waste of knowhow, time, money etc.)
+
+In general I agree to your points. Centralizing but at the same time
+preserving the room for all local communities to extend to their own
+capabilities and taste.
+
+But at the same time there may be already existing local communities
+who would like to "do their own style" - no problem, they can still be
+a part of the overall Mageia world.
+
+As for donations, it is something different. We want local communities
+to be active in their area, to organize and/or participate in local
+events, start local actions, etc. This costs money (I know it, been
+there). We have to give those community room for that. And btw: we can
+not tell donators who they have to give their donations to :)
+
+-- 
+wobo
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Organization for local communites

+ Lucas.Betschart at crypto.ch + Lucas.Betschart at crypto.ch +
+ Tue Feb 22 13:08:59 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
			>I'd like to ask if will be a section in mageia.org for local 
+			>communities or will remain the same way as in forum.mandriva.com with 
+			>redirections to the locale forums (except french that is     
+			>integrated in the official forum)
+			>
+			>What will be the needs for a local community ?
+			>The wiki will be in the mageia.org, the central page (blog) will be translated as now, so we will need only a forum and/or a blog (for announces,articles about local 					events/issues) ?
+			>
+			>
+		> I like this idea. Then not every community needs to have their own webspace / server. All donations for the full infrastructur would go directly to the mageia association, not to 		the local communities.
+		> Also it would be clear for new user where to find help in every 
+		> language. And there will be one "official" community (having more then 
+		> 1 board for the same project is waste of knowhow, time, money etc.)
+
+	In general I agree to your points. Centralizing but at the same time preserving the room for all local communities to extend to their own capabilities and taste.
+
+	But at the same time there may be already existing local communities who would like to "do their own style" - no problem, they can still be a part of the overall Mageia world.
+
+	As for donations, it is something different. We want local communities to be active in their area, to organize and/or participate in local events, start local actions, etc. This costs 	money (I know it, been there). We have to give those community room for that. And btw: we can not tell donators who they have to give their donations to :)
+
+	--
+	wobo
+
+
+
+I thought you as mandrivauser.de administrator will answer me :)
+Mandrivauser.de is a good example to demonstrate what I mean. Soon after the announcement of mageia some german people found an mageia board, and called them self the first german mageia community or something like this. So we already have (had? I don't know if that board still exists) 2 boards, 2 communitys. Waste of knowhow, time, money..
+
+
+I'd like to see something like ubuntuuser.de for the whole community in all languages. Blog, Portal, Board and Wiki integrated.
+
+Defining a local community should happen throught engagement (in local events, activ writing in board/wiki/blogs etc.). This is possible with centralised and non-centralised community.
+
+
+Sry for this formatting. I have to use outlook..
+
+--
+Lucas Betschart
+
+ + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Organization for local communites

+ Catalin Florin RUSSEN + cfrussen at yahoo.co.uk +
+ Tue Feb 22 13:26:51 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
+
+> I'd like to ask if will be a section in mageia.org for local communities or 
+>will  remain the same way as in forum.mandriva.com with redirections to the 
+>locale  forums (except french that is integrated in the official forum)
+
+I think that it's important for a community to have a central gathering point, 
+in our case: www.mageia.org
+As we're from all the corners of the world, it's nice so that everyone could 
+have a custom gathering point (ex. the site's localization in all those 
+languages).
+I think, if you look at it like a service offered, mageia.org must offer a 
+standard package that includes website, forum, blog, wiki and mailing list in 
+localized languages. For most of us is enough and we know when we're donating 
+money for what we're doing it (infrastructure cost are also covered).
+
+> What will  be the needs for a local community ?
+> The wiki will be in the mageia.org, the  central page (blog) will be translated 
+>as now, so we will need only a forum  and/or a blog (for announces,articles 
+>about local events/issues)  ?
+> 
+
+That's a good question. What a local community needs could be that the "standard 
+package" do not satisfy them?
+The only thing I can think of is if the local community intend to keep its own 
+fanzine/magazine/gazette, its own package repositories or translations (ex. 
+specific translations that do not fit/agree with the upstream). But once again, 
+it'll be better to concentrate the effort and publish this in English so that 
+all Mageia community may benefit.
+
+It's better to stay united, it's easier for the project governance and overview. 
+Doing things locally brakes this unity and make forks and separation much 
+easier.
+
+For Mandriva it's different because they have a business model based on 
+franchise, letting local partners to organize things in their own way, based on 
+Mandriva's products and support. This is not the case here to justify separated 
+local Mageia communities. But I may be wrong...
+
+Best regards,
+Florin Catalin RUSSEN
+Romanian Translation Team
+
+
+      
+
+ + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Organization for local communites

+ Michael Scherer + misc at zarb.org +
+ Tue Feb 22 13:49:09 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
Le mardi 22 février 2011 à 12:26 +0000, Catalin Florin RUSSEN a écrit :
+
+> It's better to stay united, it's easier for the project governance and overview. 
+> Doing things locally brakes this unity and make forks and separation much 
+> easier.
+
+Given the fact that we are a fork, that's quite ironic to try to prevent
+others from doing so by making things harder for them.
+
+-- 
+Michael Scherer
+
+
+ + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Organization for local communites

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Tue Feb 22 15:24:39 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
2011/2/22 Michael Scherer <misc at zarb.org>:
+> Le mardi 22 février 2011 à 12:26 +0000, Catalin Florin RUSSEN a écrit :
+>
+>> It's better to stay united, it's easier for the project governance and overview.
+>> Doing things locally brakes this unity and make forks and separation much
+>> easier.
+>
+> Given the fact that we are a fork, that's quite ironic to try to prevent
+> others from doing so by making things harder for them.
+
+At first read, yes, it sounds ironic. But not so at second glance,
+given the different sircumstances.
+
+I'd also prefer a centralised presentation.
+We already have a blog and a website with localized pages.
+We will have a multilingual wiki and same kind of forum.
+All these may give extra room for local things.
+
+But at the same time all existing communities can have their own web
+sites for their extra stuff. What I'd want to avoid is two different
+communities of tha same language and/or country.
+
+Of course we can't force that :)
+
+-- 
+wobo
+
+ + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Organization for local communites

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Tue Feb 22 15:28:04 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
2011/2/22  <Lucas.Betschart at crypto.ch>:
+>
+> I thought you as mandrivauser.de administrator will answer me :)
+> Mandrivauser.de is a good example to demonstrate what I mean. Soon after the announcement of mageia some german people found an mageia board, and called them self the first german mageia community or something like this. So we already have (had? I don't know if that board still exists) 2 boards, 2 communitys. Waste of knowhow, time, money..
+
+Where is this "first German Mageia community? Do you have an URL?
+Mageia.de is owned by me, mageiauser.de is owned by a friend. Both
+lead to mageia.org for the time being.
+
+-- 
+wobo
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Organization for local communites

+ Lucas.Betschart at crypto.ch + Lucas.Betschart at crypto.ch +
+ Tue Feb 22 15:40:24 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
		> I thought you as mandrivauser.de administrator will answer me :) 
+		> Mandrivauser.de is a good example to demonstrate what I mean. Soon after the announcement of mageia some german people found an mageia board, and called them self the first german 		mageia community or something like this. So we already have (had? I don't know if that board still exists) 2 boards, 2 communitys. Waste of knowhow, time, money..
+
+	Where is this "first German Mageia community? Do you have an URL?
+	Mageia.de is owned by me, mageiauser.de is owned by a friend. Both lead to mageia.org for the time being.
+
+	--
+	wobo
+
+
+Oh, I'm sry. I was wrong. It was the first english mageia community forum.
+I was talking about the link you posted at http://www.mandrivauser.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=188&t=30002&start=0
+http://www.mageiausers.org/
+
+
+But its the same just with english community.
+
+In the other mail you wrote mageia will have a central board and wiki in all languages, so thats what I/we were talking about.
+Great :D Nothing more to say. Seems like mageia community organisation will be perfect ;)
+
+--
+Lucas Betschart
+
+ + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Organization for local communites

+ Catalin Florin RUSSEN + cfrussen at yahoo.co.uk +
+ Tue Feb 22 16:19:36 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
+
+> > It's better to stay united, it's easier for the project governance  and 
+>overview. 
+>
+> > Doing things locally brakes this unity and make forks and  separation much 
+> > easier.
+> 
+> Given the fact that we are a fork,  that's quite ironic to try to prevent
+> others from doing so by making things  harder for them.
+> 
+
+No, isn't ironic, but every communication is a failure because of too may 
+factors in the way (language, culture, each own reality and values, and so 
+on...)
+So my message is the perfect example why a communication is a failure: because 
+I'm not a native English speaker, you cannot cover all the details which provoke 
+that some people do not understand properly the message.
+
+Personally, it's a shame to have two or more local communities (not to say 
+weird) and proves that things don't go well.
+In this case, a local community must be agreed by the official board, if not 
+there'll be chaos and not good for Mageia's image.
+But indeed, you cannot prevent people to fork :)
+
+As far as we're (Romanian community) concerned, for the time being the "standard 
+package" is perfect for our needs!
+And how can you be nearest to the main Mageia community than that? Just in the 
+middle of it! I doubt that we'll ever need more :)
+
+Historically we always confirmed that the union makes the power. Better invest 
+your effort in a greater community, much chances of success, than waste it 
+locally with no continuity.
+I saw so many projects or people that fork in a minority that 
+disappeared/discontinued with the time. They lost time, money and they got only 
+frustration.
+
+Best regards,
+Florin Catalin RUSSEN
+Romanian Translation Team
+
+
+      
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] User made a negative Mageia review

+ André Machado + afmachado at dcemail.com +
+ Tue Feb 22 17:58:33 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
I'm bringing to you a Mageia Alpha 1 review posted on
+http://www.tvieira.net/linux/uma-olhada-rapida-no-mageia-alpha-1/ (english
+version:
+http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=pt&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tvieira.net%2Flinux%2Fuma-olhada-rapida-no-mageia-alpha-1%2F
+)
+
+Basically, blogger states that "As you can see the images above, the mageia does
+not have its own identity, because what struck me is a Mandriva kernel with a
+newer and different repositories (as their own repositories mageia uses), I know
+it's still a lot of Alpha things will change, but I was disappointed with the
+mageia so far. [...] I sincerely hope that will change the very mageia, because
+if you walk the way that this will have no reason to use the mageia instead of
+Mandriva ..."
+
+Comments shoud be made on original post.
+
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] User made a negative Mageia review

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Tue Feb 22 18:35:36 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
2011/2/22 André Machado <afmachado at dcemail.com>:
+> I'm bringing to you a Mageia Alpha 1 review posted on
+> http://www.tvieira.net/linux/uma-olhada-rapida-no-mageia-alpha-1/ (english
+> version:
+> http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=pt&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tvieira.net%2Flinux%2Fuma-olhada-rapida-no-mageia-alpha-1%2F
+> )
+>
+> Basically, blogger states that "As you can see the images above, the mageia does
+> not have its own identity, because what struck me is a Mandriva kernel with a
+> newer and different repositories (as their own repositories mageia uses), I know
+> it's still a lot of Alpha things will change, but I was disappointed with the
+> mageia so far. [...] I sincerely hope that will change the very mageia, because
+> if you walk the way that this will have no reason to use the mageia instead of
+> Mandriva ..."
+
+Yes, we DID tell everybody that it is a not-for-use and not-for-review
+alpha version. But as people are, we could not avoid such "reviews".
+
+The very first comment already said all there is to say (translation by Google):
+"The staff of mageia made it clear that the objective of this first
+alpha was to leave things running: Install, boot, repositories are set
+up and working."
+
+"After that everything is round, they will begin to implement their
+ideas. And, thankfully, as they themselves said, the MCC will remain
+intact!"
+
+-- 
+wobo
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] User made a negative Mageia review

+ Vinet Raphaël + superaphke at gmail.com +
+ Tue Feb 22 18:41:27 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
Le mardi 22 février 2011 18:35:36 Wolfgang Bornath, vous avez écrit :
+> 2011/2/22 André Machado <afmachado at dcemail.com>:
+> > I'm bringing to you a Mageia Alpha 1 review posted on
+> > http://www.tvieira.net/linux/uma-olhada-rapida-no-mageia-alpha-1/
+> > (english version:
+> > http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&layo
+> > ut=2&eotf=1&sl=pt&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tvieira.net%2Flinux%2Fuma-olha
+> > da-rapida-no-mageia-alpha-1%2F )
+> > 
+> > Basically, blogger states that "As you can see the images above, the
+> > mageia does not have its own identity, because what struck me is a
+> > Mandriva kernel with a newer and different repositories (as their own
+> > repositories mageia uses), I know it's still a lot of Alpha things will
+> > change, but I was disappointed with the mageia so far. [...] I sincerely
+> > hope that will change the very mageia, because if you walk the way that
+> > this will have no reason to use the mageia instead of Mandriva ..."
+> 
+> Yes, we DID tell everybody that it is a not-for-use and not-for-review
+> alpha version. But as people are, we could not avoid such "reviews".
+> 
+> The very first comment already said all there is to say (translation by
+> Google): "The staff of mageia made it clear that the objective of this
+> first alpha was to leave things running: Install, boot, repositories are
+> set up and working."
+> 
+> "After that everything is round, they will begin to implement their
+> ideas. And, thankfully, as they themselves said, the MCC will remain
+> intact!"
+Hello,
+
+
+As for Openoffice/LibreOffice someone who "don't know" what a recent fork is maybe 
+? 
+
+I think the next step to clearly mark the difference will be a "totaly different 
+look". It is not the most important but for sure the more visible ;-)
+
+
+-- 
+C'est parce que la vitesse de la lumière est supérieure à celle du son, que 
+certains ont l'air brillant avant d'avoir l'air con.
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[Mageia-discuss] Meeting tonight

+ Michael Scherer + misc at zarb.org +
+ Tue Feb 22 19:28:12 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi, 
+
+yesterday weekly meeting was reported ( too much people absent or sick,
+not sure of wht was decided before for the meeting ), so we reported it
+for tonight ( same hour 19h30 UTC, same irc room, #mageia-meeting ) :
+
+proposed agenda : 
+- Review on Alpha1 and coming alpha2: process, priorities, bugs (anne,
+ misc, ahmad)
+- Review on infrastructure and web: tasks in progress, coming one
+(rda, misc, boklm)
+- Mageia communication: we are lacking of real communication for now.
+How can we improve this? (spread Mageia news and events)
+
+As usual, people are free to propose subjects for next week, or come to
+participate/help.
+
+( and as usual, the meeting log will be on http://meetbot.mageia.org/,
+along with minutes ).
+-- 
+Michael Scherer
+
+
+ + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] User made a negative Mageia review

+ Hoyt Duff + hoytduff at gmail.com +
+ Tue Feb 22 20:10:37 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
On 2/22/11, André Machado <afmachado at dcemail.com> wrote:
+
+> Basically, blogger states that "As you can see the images above, the mageia
+> does
+> not have its own identity, because what struck me is a Mandriva kernel with
+
+Can't fix stupid.
+
+
+-- 
+Hoyt
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Libreoffice 3.3.1.2 and mageia

+ Dexter Morgan + dmorganec at gmail.com +
+ Tue Feb 22 20:30:34 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
Hello,
+
+This message just to tell you that mageia have now libreoffice in
+cauldron. For now we only have it in english but the localized version
+should be uploaded soon.
+
+
+I hope you will  appreciate this software.
+
+
+Regards
+
+ + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] Libreoffice 3.3.1.2 and mageia

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Tue Feb 22 20:36:19 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
2011/2/22 Dexter Morgan <dmorganec at gmail.com>:
+> Hello,
+>
+> This message just to tell you that mageia have now libreoffice in
+> cauldron. For now we only have it in english but the localized version
+> should be uploaded soon.
+>
+>
+> I hope you will  appreciate this software.
+
+YES!
+Big thumbs-up for this!
+
+-- 
+wobo
+
+ + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] User made a negative Mageia review

+ André Machado + afmachado at dcemail.com +
+ Tue Feb 22 21:36:56 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
+
+> Can't fix stupid.
+
+
+Indeed :(
+
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-discuss] User made a negative Mageia review

+ Cazzaniga Sandro + cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com +
+ Tue Feb 22 21:42:08 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
Le 22/02/2011 21:36, André Machado a écrit :
+> 
+> 
+>> Can't fix stupid.
+> 
+> 
+> Indeed :(
+> 
+#!/bin/bash
+for stupide in people
+do
+	kill -9 $stupide	
+done
+exit 0
+
+
+Geek joke :)
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-discuss] User made a negative Mageia review

+ Juergen Harms + Juergen.Harms at unige.ch +
+ Tue Feb 22 22:05:55 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
It might be more emotional than stupid - the quoted website is in Brasil 
+where Mandriva certainly does a lot of promotion.
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-discuss] Libreoffice 3.3.1.2 and mageia

+ Juergen Harms + Juergen.Harms at unige.ch +
+ Tue Feb 22 22:39:49 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
Great news - will try putting it to work.
+
+A technical question: is the format of data in the user directory 
+(former .ooo directory, now .libreoffice/3) compatible from OO to LO? - 
+i.e. can I copy files with templates from OO to LO? - maybe even the 
+entire structure under ../user?
+
+ + + + + +
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[Mageia-discuss] User made a negative Mageia review

+ André Machado + afmachado at dcemail.com +
+ Tue Feb 22 23:10:26 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
Juergen Harms <Juergen.Harms at ...> writes:
+
+> 
+> It might be more emotional than stupid - the quoted website is in Brasil 
+> where Mandriva certainly does a lot of promotion.
+> 
+> 
+
+Not only that. Many GNU/Linux users in Brazil are against new distros creation.
+They guess that most new distros are unnecessary and add nothing new. They have
+the view that the less distros, the better.
+
+They ask, for instance, what is the necessity of establishing mageia and why not
+join with PCLinuxOS. Many are br-linux.org site commentators.
+
+But this argument has some truth: before Mandriva, Conectiva was the largest
+distro in Brazil and, after, this post was occuped by Kurumin, a Knoppix
+national live-cd remaster. From Kurumin, and later (K)Ubuntu, came many current
+distros.
+
+BUT, we hope that Mageia final version can bring something innovative and
+different to change the views and establish itself as a quality alternative
+(please remember all past discussions in this list about softmodens and welcome
+center).
+
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-discuss] OpenOpera?

+ André Machado + afmachado at dcemail.com +
+ Tue Feb 22 23:59:10 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
It's likely tar.gz files in FTP server are a universal installer, not the source
+code.
+
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-discuss] User made a negative Mageia review

+ André Machado + afmachado at dcemail.com +
+ Tue Feb 22 23:55:59 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
I believe my settings are useful for this topic that you may better understand
+the Brazilian market and develop a proper marketing strategy.
+
+
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