[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions

Wed Oct 27 02:24:41 CEST 2010

Op woensdag 27 oktober 2010 01:23:37 schreef Frank Griffin:
+> Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+> > Op woensdag 27 oktober 2010 00:52:25 schreef Frank Griffin:
+> >> Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+> >>> A solution could be to
+> >>> 1. hide everything but the application packages (no matter if GUI or
+> >>> CLI) 2. Insert such a list of options but give it an "expert" tag.
+> >>> 3. The most important: make a search result visible also if the result
+> >>> is something which would be hidden otherwise.
+> >>> 
+> >>> Example:
+> >>> gstreamer-plugin-devel (don't care about the name) would be hidden in
+> >>> standard view. But if the user writes "gstreamer" into the search
+> >>> field it shouold be displayed in the search result view.
+> >>> 
+> >>> This way we could even keep the current order with "programs with gui"
+> >>> as default. When the user no searches for 'mc' he will see it in the
+> >>> list of search results, although 'mc' would not be displayed in
+> >>> "Programs with GUI" view.
+> >>> 
+> >>> Does anybody understand what I wrote? Can't explain it in better words.
+> >>> 
+> >>> :)
+> >> 
+> >> Excellent point.  This mirrors something I suggested in another thread
+> >> about rpmdrake and repositories.  Show anything, if it's asked for,
+> >> whether the source is "disabled" or not.
+> > 
+> > OTOH for new users, this overwelming choice of programs can be quite
+> > overwelming.
+> > 
+> > I would propose to have a bydefault hiding of most of the programs (more
+> > or less like now); but when once clicked off, to be remembered for next
+> > time.
+> 
+> Umm, you *did* read the bit about how the would existing "hidden"
+> choices would be hidden by default ?
+
+maybe not, there's a lot of email...
+
+> > OR
+> > 
+> > when you search and find nothing; to get a display that the view is
+> > switched to all; because it couldn't find your package
+> 
+> Well, maybe a popup to the effect that if you change your view you might
+> see what you wanted...
+> 
+> > OR
+> > 
+> > have the results in two collapsable regions; where the first one contains
+> > the "GUI" packages and the 2nd is collapsed by default (when the first
+> > one is empty, it's collapsed and the 2nd one is open?
+> 
+> I think the above popup would do.
+> 
+> > I want this to be usefull for new users (while not being unusefull for
+> > contributers like myself) my dad, for instance, absolutely loves that by
+> > default the GUI packages are listed; because he never uses any console.
+> 
+> Hmm.  Does your dad really care, or are you just projecting onto him ?
+> In other words, did he actually use rpmdrake back when "All" was the
+> default and have a problem with it, or are you just assuming that he'd
+> want GUI packages by default because of what you know he likes ?
+
+i put him on Mandriva for a while now; and he's the type that doesn't know 
+much about computers, but likes to experiment a little, and install and try 
+some programs; since he never uses konsole; in the past he's installed quite 
+some programs that he couldn't find in the menu.
+
+He did mention that he found it odd that there were less programs, (he 
+remembered there being more programs), but they were almost all locatable in 
+the menu, and i specifically remember him mentioning this to me.
+