[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums

Wed Sep 22 21:56:10 CEST 2010

Le mardi 21 septembre 2010 à 18:09 +0200, Tux99 a écrit :
+> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, vfmBOFH wrote:
+> >
+> > Similar to the (failed) mandriva assembly, huh?
+> > 
+> > I think it can be a good scheme. And comes with some "extras" like localized
+> > communities can "elect" their representative on the future associaton, and
+> > turns the "central hub" in a open discuss for them. If this scheme sucess,
+> > transparency and openess of the representative's discursons are guaranteed.
+> 
+> 
+> Since vfmBOFH mentions the failed mandriva assembly, I'd like to suggest 
+> to please keep the organisational structure as flat as possible.
+> 
+> On the internet where everyone has equal possibilities to be informed 
+> and partecipate we don't need multi-level hierarchical structures with 
+> so called local community representatives that have special rights or 
+> influence.
+
+Did you read the book "The starfish and the spider" by chance :) ?
+
+( if you didn't, you should, or try to see Max Spevack presentation
+about Fedora organisation )
+
+> As we just saw during the first days of Mageia, the opinion of some 
+> local community representatives don't necessarily match at all with the 
+> opinions of the members of their community.
+> 
+> So personally I don't see any point in local community representatives 
+> as decision makers. If anything they should make sure that their 
+> communities are informaed by arranging translations of relevant 
+> information and manage their local forums, events etc.
+> 
+> Any voting on global Mageia issues should be open to everyone, there 
+> should be no delegations or representations as that's not necessary on 
+> the internet.
+
+As anti democratic I will sound, I do not like much the idea of voting.
+
+Because this often end promoting segregation rather compromise, and
+giving opinion rather than acting to make the change. In France, we have
+basically 2 side each time, given our voting system, and this create
+manichean situations, which then degenerate in friction. And minorities
+views are mostly not considered. 
+
+I also have bad memories of Debian discussion when there is stuff to
+vote.
+
+More ever, i think we should better aim to a system where a minimal
+number of choices will be imposed on others. Ie if we decide to use
+openbox as default wm, we should have a easy way to produce another iso,
+etc. 
+
+Of course, default choices will have to be made, but this must be either
+"easy" to change, or at least based on technical ground and numbers
+rather than opinion and political aspects.
+
+-- 
+Michael Scherer
+
+