[Mageia-discuss] [Cooker] Re: Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva]

Tue Sep 21 20:46:12 CEST 2010

Tysdag 21. september 2010 19.30.31 skreiv nicolas vigier:
+> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+> > > I still think that we must do it. In such a foundation, Mandriva (the
+> > > company) would be a voice among others.
+> > 
+> > Well...
+> > 
+> > >From my point of view (which I may share or not with many people from
+> > 
+> > the pre-board team who can confirm/contradict me here):
+> >  1. I don't trust Mandriva existing and coming management, neither
+> > 
+> > investors. Years spent over there as an employee, seeing things from
+> > the inside taught me that this company is, sadly, structurally broken,
+> > from the very top (investors) down to management and its practices -
+> > and for quite some time. Fixing it is an option, although very costly
+> > and requiring exceptionnal skills and commitment from management; I
+> > don't see this over there at this time.
+> > 
+> >  2. Mandriva plans are non-existent at this time to me (yesterday's
+> > 
+> > blog post is empty to me).
+> 
+> I completly agree with this.
+> 
+> I don't want to have anything to do with current Mandriva management
+> anymore, I've lost any trust in them.
+> 
+> Nicolas
+
+
+Please don't hold the Mandriva community hostage because of personal bad 
+feelings you might have about the Mandriva company. 
+
+If Laprévote invites to collaboration to make a foundation, then this should 
+be looked into regardless of your personal feelings. I think most of us would 
+love a solution like Fedora-Redhat.
+
+The name Mageia and the foundation might be kept. But what good does it make 
+to have a new Cooker, new build system or bugzilla? If collaboration between 
+Mandriva and Mageia is possible, then please collaborate.
+
+When someone reach out a hand, don't turn your back on it. Instead you could 
+indicate what you think would be needed in order to make collaboration 
+possible. Just saying 'no I wont collaborate at all' makes this look more like 
+a vendetta than a constructive initiative.
+
+Maybe this was a bit too harsh, but I guess you get the point :)
+
+- Jostein Hauge (jess)
+