[Mageia-discuss] Mageia Forums

Tue Sep 21 18:55:46 CEST 2010

2010/9/21 Marc Paré <marc at marcpare.com>
+
+> Le 2010-09-21 12:09, Tux99 a écrit :
+>
+>  On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, vfmBOFH wrote:
+>>
+>>>
+>>> Similar to the (failed) mandriva assembly, huh?
+>>>
+>>> I think it can be a good scheme. And comes with some "extras" like
+>>> localized
+>>> communities can "elect" their representative on the future associaton,
+>>> and
+>>> turns the "central hub" in a open discuss for them. If this scheme
+>>> sucess,
+>>> transparency and openess of the representative's discursons are
+>>> guaranteed.
+>>>
+>>
+>>
+>> Since vfmBOFH mentions the failed mandriva assembly, I'd like to suggest
+>> to please keep the organisational structure as flat as possible.
+>>
+>> On the internet where everyone has equal possibilities to be informed
+>> and partecipate we don't need multi-level hierarchical structures with
+>> so called local community representatives that have special rights or
+>> influence.
+>>
+>> As we just saw during the first days of Mageia, the opinion of some
+>> local community representatives don't necessarily match at all with the
+>> opinions of the members of their community.
+>>
+>> So personally I don't see any point in local community representatives
+>> as decision makers. If anything they should make sure that their
+>> communities are informaed by arranging translations of relevant
+>> information and manage their local forums, events etc.
+>>
+>> Any voting on global Mageia issues should be open to everyone, there
+>> should be no delegations or representations as that's not necessary on
+>> the internet.
+>>
+>
+> Agreed, however, that is not what we were talking about. We were talking
+> about information flow of information from the outer-localized groups being
+> communicated back to the main site.
+>
+
+I will talk about i know. In the past, blogdrake admins "probes" the
+communitie's opinions to make it theirs. Then, they go to to Mandriva's
+active channel (whatever) and shows it. The new scheme i see it's ony a
+refined version of a good-working scheme. At least, until blogdrake's admins
+communicates with mandriva...
+
+>
+> Having a reverse flow, in my opinion, would be a job tackled on by the
+> localized groups themselves. That is to mean, if the localized group wanted
+> to be informed of the goings-on at the main Mageia.org site, they would make
+> arrangements themselves to translate these to their localized members.
+>
+I agree with it. And -again- the reverse flow could/must be important part
+of the local representative's work.
+
+
+> The main issue here, as with all large organizations, is to make sure that
+> the information from the outer-limbs of Mageia makes it back to the cental
+> hub point from where the decisions are made. Before making decisions on
+> issues, the Mageia.org hub should have all of the pertinent feedback from
+> all users (localized or not). The flow should assure this.
+>
+
+Again, i talk about i know: On the "assemby times" the blogdrake's admins
+were the messenger between assembly and its community (in the two ways
+flow). You can be sure we will do again, if neccessary, but maybe it's time
+to improve the community implication using some kind of election. But the
+scheme i think is valid and applicable to each local community.
+
+
+>
+> Marc
+>
+>
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