[Mageia-discuss] Transparency & open invitation to a united foundation..? [Was: forking mandriva]

Tue Sep 21 07:26:39 CEST 2010

2010/9/20 Michael Scherer <misc at mandriva.org>:
+> Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 à 16:31 +0200, Per Øyvind Karlsen a
+> écrit :
+>
+>> My primary interest lies with Mandriva Linux, not Mandriva, not Edge-IT.
+>> Critics and noise leading to this pretty much all revolves around
+>> Edge-IT, not cooker.
+>
+> While I do not agree with Per Oyvind reasoning, nor do I want to point
+> some lack of transparency on previous foundation attempts, I must tell
+Well, as you don't want to point out what you point out, I feel like
+that I'd actually want to point out some things concerning it and
+provide an explanation and some background on the matter as I think it
+deserves such, and as I consider the topic being of public interest to
+our community.
+
+Anyways, the "lack of transparency" was rather discression for the
+mutual interest of all parties before there was anything to announce
+and try avoiding any potential PR disasters.
+
+In retrospect, sure, this might've been a mistake, but the intentions
+were rather sincere and the efforts weren't really considered as a
+threath or a protest towards any specific parties, but did rather gain
+favorable attention from everyone in community and almost everyone
+within company, from the CEO and down.
+My reluctancy on trying to push this much harder and in public were
+mostly due to stress (and resulting moodiness;) and lack of energy to
+try push something which got dismissed when trying to organize the
+failed meeting at LSM 2007, and pretty much at every slight attempt at
+raising it again later, with even responses and views of it no longer
+being necessary or relevant with such as the creation of the Assembly
+etc..
+Why you didn't pay any attention to nor have any interest in any of
+these previous efforts and the work invested beats me, it would've
+been a much better alternative to all parties without the controversy
+and increased bad feelings coming out of this.. :/
+
+Oh well, regardless of past mistakes and any incoherency on my part,
+motivations of yours or anything, I still think the resources gathered
+and all the time and work invested could be of use to both parties,
+and the rationale for previous discression being way beyond moot now,
+so I've removed the previous need for registration (that were open to
+everyone btw.) on the wiki with most of the content and post it now
+for the first time in public for everyone, in hope for it to be of use
+to either Mageia, Mandriva, or perhaps even both, at least hoping for
+not all of it being wasted:
+http://foundation.zarb.org
+
+> I am still hoping to see both side of the divide to work together as
+> much as possible and I do not see any reason to not have it.
+As do I.
+
+I still have a hope for seeing this vision being realised, and
+certainly would very much prefer mutual collaboration around this than
+a fork splitting the community and company, rather than uniting it.
+I'd certainly have great interest (together with others which even
+expressed their interest in funding it, as brought up when I tried
+reviving this again earlier this year) in investing efforts into this
+again, but certainly it would depend on the actual interest in this
+from the people within Mandriva the company, the Mandriva Linux
+community, the Mageia community, and also from our friends at Unity
+Linux, PCLinuxOS and any other familiars which share a common interest
+in sharing goals, benefits and efforts.
+
+So I'd like to request the input from all parties on this, what
+interest would it be to you? What is preventing your interest in it?
+What would be required to gain your interest in it?
+
+Well, I see this as my last opportunity for trying to push this again
+trying to preserve our community, leave our differences aside and try
+one final time to attempt uniting communities that would be stronger
+and healthier working together, allowing diversity rather than against
+eachother, fueling controversy and causing further fragmentation in
+our ecosystem.
+
+If nothing else, I did try at least.. ;)
+
+Oh well, I fear that this I with this post and the proposition might
+just be flamed to death no matter how sane and justified I may find
+this that others might consider a flamebait pipedream, or perhaps just
+ignored which wouldn't surprise me that much either, but as there
+might just be slight chance of constructive discussion taking place
+and something of use to someone rather than a new round with
+distribution of blame and angry voices, I take my chances in the
+spirit of the greater good for everyone. :o)
+
+--
+With the very best intentions,
+Per Øyvind,
+Your chief in charge of hugs and candy ;)
+