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On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 09:11, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU <beranger5ca@yahoo.ca> wrote:
+ +To end this flamewar: when I decide to use a cauldron/cooker/rawhide/unstable system, I expect I will need to fix some breakages, but at least
+(1) let me have a proper choice of kernels in GRUB, including the previous one;
+(2) don't force UNRELEASED kernels on me!

This thread was certainly amused and very fruitful for at least my fortunes file, but may I suggest you to start using some other distribution or operating system which better satisfies your needs, and leave us, poor mortals, with Mandriva/Mageia stable/cooker/cauldron gnu/linux solutions - which work the way we love? :)
+ +
They are imperfect, they have unreleased versions all the time, they have breakages, upgrades, updates, flaws, problems, design issues, and so on - but this is fine for us!
 
+ + + +Breaking a package is one thing, breaking the kernel is a totally different one.

And breaking a window is totally different as well, I agree :(. As well as breaking a leg for example, and breaking habits. And let us not forget that it is completely and if I might say, even oppository - to breaking a home run (all via http://www.thefreedictionary.com/break)!
+ + 
+ +And no, I won't investigate anything, I'll not file any report on what it's not working with this kernel and my hardware.

Yep, I have already realized this, but thanks to confirming nonetheless :).
+ +
 
+ +Regressions in kernels are the thing I hate the most in this world.

Yes, this is certainly one of the cruelest and merciless things in the world, I must agree.. :(
 
+ + I've experienced kernel regressions in the past every 6 months with each and every Ubuntu release -- and those were kernels supposed to be tested well-enough.

Apparently they weren't. Let me apologize on behalf of Ubuntu developers and Linus Torvalds himself for not being proactive enough to make kernels work on your hardware, I believe that they will be really ashamed of themselves at the moment they'll read this. Sorry :(.
+ + 
+ +What I like in Linux is never the kernel.

This seems to be apparently contradictory to some other phrases, but I have to agree - I like never kernel, for example, the 3.0 seems to be great (for me!)
+ + 
Never ever.

World is soooo busy those days...
 
+ +It's monolithic, impossible to be properly tested, and managed by a stupid fat arrogant guy called Linus.

Yep, I agree, he will be even more ashamed of himself after reading this... :(

+ +
The only kernels I loved were 1.2.13 and1.3.18.

2.2.16 was pretty cool, and 2.4.1 with reiserfs was nice too, but yes, those new shiny trending things - even being a bit cool - are still among the most hated things, this is so very true :(. I have to confess that they must learn a thing or two from DOS - almost 30 years without a remote hole in default install, and working as stable and fast as possible since their first release!
+ + 
After that, the kernel was just a nuisance -- like the government, the taxes, the Microsoft tax, etc.
+ +

Yep, I agree with you, the governments, taxes, Microsoft and its tax are almost as bad as kernel regressions (mentioned above), but they are still are a far cry from those!

But once again, let me apologize for the Linux community, Free Software developers, Linus Torvalds himself and - of course - mr. Richard Matthew Stallman for not being proactive enough in their efforts to make GNU/Linux working on your computer in most flawless and perfect way. I believe they feel really achamed now and as a sign of my support for their cause, and due to my involvement in the open source community, I will mourn those tragic events today with a minute of silence on this mailing list (starting now).
+ +

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Eugeni Dodonov
http://eugeni.dodonov.net/
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On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 09:11, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU <beranger5ca@yahoo.ca> wrote:
+ +To end this flamewar: when I decide to use a cauldron/cooker/rawhide/unstable system, I expect I will need to fix some breakages, but at least
+(1) let me have a proper choice of kernels in GRUB, including the previous one;
+(2) don't force UNRELEASED kernels on me!

This thread was certainly amused and very fruitful for at least my fortunes file, but may I suggest you to start using some other distribution or operating system which better satisfies your needs, and leave us, poor mortals, with Mandriva/Mageia stable/cooker/cauldron gnu/linux solutions - which work the way we love? :)
+ +
They are imperfect, they have unreleased versions all the time, they have breakages, upgrades, updates, flaws, problems, design issues, and so on - but this is fine for us!
 
+ + + +Breaking a package is one thing, breaking the kernel is a totally different one.

And breaking a window is totally different as well, I agree :(. As well as breaking a leg for example, and breaking habits. And let us not forget that it is completely and if I might say, even oppository - to breaking a home run (all via http://www.thefreedictionary.com/break)!
+ + 
+ +And no, I won't investigate anything, I'll not file any report on what it's not working with this kernel and my hardware.

Yep, I have already realized this, but thanks to confirming nonetheless :).
+ +
 
+ +Regressions in kernels are the thing I hate the most in this world.

Yes, this is certainly one of the cruelest and merciless things in the world, I must agree.. :(
 
+ + I've experienced kernel regressions in the past every 6 months with each and every Ubuntu release -- and those were kernels supposed to be tested well-enough.

Apparently they weren't. Let me apologize on behalf of Ubuntu developers and Linus Torvalds himself for not being proactive enough to make kernels work on your hardware, I believe that they will be really ashamed of themselves at the moment they'll read this. Sorry :(.
+ + 
+ +What I like in Linux is never the kernel.

This seems to be apparently contradictory to some other phrases, but I have to agree - I like never kernel, for example, the 3.0 seems to be great (for me!)
+ + 
Never ever.

World is soooo busy those days...
 
+ +It's monolithic, impossible to be properly tested, and managed by a stupid fat arrogant guy called Linus.

Yep, I agree, he will be even more ashamed of himself after reading this... :(

+ +
The only kernels I loved were 1.2.13 and1.3.18.

2.2.16 was pretty cool, and 2.4.1 with reiserfs was nice too, but yes, those new shiny trending things - even being a bit cool - are still among the most hated things, this is so very true :(. I have to confess that they must learn a thing or two from DOS - almost 30 years without a remote hole in default install, and working as stable and fast as possible since their first release!
+ + 
After that, the kernel was just a nuisance -- like the government, the taxes, the Microsoft tax, etc.
+ +

Yep, I agree with you, the governments, taxes, Microsoft and its tax are almost as bad as kernel regressions (mentioned above), but they are still are a far cry from those!

But once again, let me apologize for the Linux community, Free Software developers, Linus Torvalds himself and - of course - mr. Richard Matthew Stallman for not being proactive enough in their efforts to make GNU/Linux working on your computer in most flawless and perfect way. I believe they feel really achamed now and as a sign of my support for their cause, and due to my involvement in the open source community, I will mourn those tragic events today with a minute of silence on this mailing list (starting now).
+ +

--
Eugeni Dodonov
http://eugeni.dodonov.net/
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