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+ +  by pmithrandir + » Jun 13th, '11, 20:21 +
+
On my side, I think mageia should do a + "mix" of others idea.
+
+ I would say :
+ - A release every year.
+ - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff + (firefox, chrome, libreoffice...)
+ - During this year also a way to add some new package if + needed or if there is some instant success for a new software.
+
+ Every 3 years, the release is LTS and that mean it would be + maintain for 4 years.
+
+ So at the same time, mageia would be in 3 mode :
+ - The LTS
+ - The common release
+ - The cauldron.
+
+ With that kind of stuff, you should have no more than one + release for public at a time, and just one LTS.
+ If you update main software(we could define a list of no more + than 20 software) people who are crasy about new function, or + developper who need tham to develop new stuff would be happy.
+
+ BTW : I think mailing list are totally outdated and that + mageia should have a special section in this forum for these + discussion, or maybe another forum.
+ It's totally impossible for people who want to participate + sometimes to follow you emails everydays. It's much faster to + read some topic on a forum than dozens emails. And your final + user should be able to know what happen easily. It would be a + big + in front of others distributions.
+
+ by claire + » Jun 16th, '11, 14:27 +
+
+
pmithrandir wrote:On my side, I think mageia + should do a "mix" of others idea.
+
+ I would say :
+ - A release every year.
+ - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff + (firefox, chrome, libreoffice...)
+ - During this year also a way to add some new package if + needed or if there is some instant success for a new + software.
+
+ Every 3 years, the release is LTS and that mean it would be + maintain for 4 years.
+
+ So at the same time, mageia would be in 3 mode :
+ - The LTS
+ - The common release
+ - The cauldron.
+
+
+
+
+ I completely agree with this. There is no real need to rush + releases as long as new versions are easily available. I know + backports repo is available but its not very user friendly. As + an example, the newer versions of Openshot video editor have a + very nice feature of being able to do animated titles. To be + able to use them you need Blender 2.5. Whilst Mageia includes + Openshot 1.3.1 (which errors with missing plugins btw) which at + time of writing is current it still has Blender 2.49b.
+
+ It would be useful if there were a nice user friendly way to + upgrade Blender when it is backported. Something to let ordinary + users know a newer version is available and a simple click to + upgrade it.
+
+ LTS releases in Ubuntu IMHO are a great idea and one which would + add value to mageia as a potential server/business OS where + stability over time is crucial.
+
+ I dont think Joe Bloggs really cares about a 6 monthly + distribution upgrade, only that new versions of the software + they use are easily obtainable in the mean time and won't break + the distribution upgrade when it comes around.
+
+ by roadrunner + » Jun 16th, '11, 15:35 +
+
+
claire wrote: +
+
pmithrandir wrote:I dont think Joe Bloggs + really cares about a 6 monthly distribution upgrade, only + that new versions of the software they use are easily + obtainable in the mean time and won't break the + distribution upgrade when it comes around.
+
+
+
+ Speaking as a typical "Joe Bloggs", all I'm interested in is + keeping my applications up to date with the occasional + distribution upgrade. I'm not interested in regular release cycles + because I feel that this leads to "rush-jobs", which in turn, + leads to bugs galore. I'm more interested in a solid reliable + distribution upgrade on the "it'll be ready when it's ready" + basis.
+
+ .\\artin
+
- Mageia 1 32-bit - KDE SC 4.6.3 -
+ - AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ CPU -
+ - 4Gb RAM - nVidia 8500GT GPU -
+ + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/50b25b5c/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/50b25b5c/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a01c34e23 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/50b25b5c/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,128 @@ + + + + + + + Le 16/06/2011 19:57, lebarhon a écrit : +
+ +  by pmithrandir + » Jun 13th, '11, 20:21 +
+
On my side, I think mageia should do a + "mix" of others idea.
+
+ I would say :
+ - A release every year.
+ - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff + (firefox, chrome, libreoffice...)
+ - During this year also a way to add some new package if + needed or if there is some instant success for a new software.
+
+ Every 3 years, the release is LTS and that mean it would be + maintain for 4 years.
+
+ So at the same time, mageia would be in 3 mode :
+ - The LTS
+ - The common release
+ - The cauldron.
+
+ With that kind of stuff, you should have no more than one + release for public at a time, and just one LTS.
+ If you update main software(we could define a list of no more + than 20 software) people who are crasy about new function, or + developper who need tham to develop new stuff would be happy.
+
+ BTW : I think mailing list are totally outdated and that + mageia should have a special section in this forum for these + discussion, or maybe another forum.
+ It's totally impossible for people who want to participate + sometimes to follow you emails everydays. It's much faster to + read some topic on a forum than dozens emails. And your final + user should be able to know what happen easily. It would be a + big + in front of others distributions.
+
+ by claire + » Jun 16th, '11, 14:27 +
+
+
pmithrandir wrote:On my side, I think mageia + should do a "mix" of others idea.
+
+ I would say :
+ - A release every year.
+ - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff + (firefox, chrome, libreoffice...)
+ - During this year also a way to add some new package if + needed or if there is some instant success for a new + software.
+
+ Every 3 years, the release is LTS and that mean it would be + maintain for 4 years.
+
+ So at the same time, mageia would be in 3 mode :
+ - The LTS
+ - The common release
+ - The cauldron.
+
+
+
+
+ I completely agree with this. There is no real need to rush + releases as long as new versions are easily available. I know + backports repo is available but its not very user friendly. As + an example, the newer versions of Openshot video editor have a + very nice feature of being able to do animated titles. To be + able to use them you need Blender 2.5. Whilst Mageia includes + Openshot 1.3.1 (which errors with missing plugins btw) which at + time of writing is current it still has Blender 2.49b.
+
+ It would be useful if there were a nice user friendly way to + upgrade Blender when it is backported. Something to let ordinary + users know a newer version is available and a simple click to + upgrade it.
+
+ LTS releases in Ubuntu IMHO are a great idea and one which would + add value to mageia as a potential server/business OS where + stability over time is crucial.
+
+ I dont think Joe Bloggs really cares about a 6 monthly + distribution upgrade, only that new versions of the software + they use are easily obtainable in the mean time and won't break + the distribution upgrade when it comes around.
+
+ by roadrunner + » Jun 16th, '11, 15:35 +
+
+
claire wrote: +
+
pmithrandir wrote:I dont think Joe Bloggs + really cares about a 6 monthly distribution upgrade, only + that new versions of the software they use are easily + obtainable in the mean time and won't break the + distribution upgrade when it comes around.
+
+
+
+ Speaking as a typical "Joe Bloggs", all I'm interested in is + keeping my applications up to date with the occasional + distribution upgrade. I'm not interested in regular release cycles + because I feel that this leads to "rush-jobs", which in turn, + leads to bugs galore. I'm more interested in a solid reliable + distribution upgrade on the "it'll be ready when it's ready" + basis.
+
+ .\\artin
+
- Mageia 1 32-bit - KDE SC 4.6.3 -
+ - AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ CPU -
+ - 4Gb RAM - nVidia 8500GT GPU -
+ + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/529b2dc1/attachment-0001.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/529b2dc1/attachment-0001.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..646e93be5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/529b2dc1/attachment-0001.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAk36AssACgkQqEs9DA4DquA1bwCdEPH9rnYjjFMfkEltXHYXj+JR ++98An1y/xkAqt58HzwgBoMxjC2c1EnCl +=7jQy +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/529b2dc1/attachment.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/529b2dc1/attachment.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..646e93be5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/529b2dc1/attachment.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAk36AssACgkQqEs9DA4DquA1bwCdEPH9rnYjjFMfkEltXHYXj+JR ++98An1y/xkAqt58HzwgBoMxjC2c1EnCl +=7jQy +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5663f737/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5663f737/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..92d113d5f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5663f737/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ + + + + + + +  by pmithrandir + » Jun 13th, '11, 20:21 +
+
On my side, I think mageia should do a "mix" + of others idea.
+
+ I would say :
+ - A release every year.
+ - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff (firefox, + chrome, libreoffice...)
+ - During this year also a way to add some new package if needed + or if there is some instant success for a new software.
+
+ Every 3 years, the release is LTS and that mean it would be + maintain for 4 years.
+
+ So at the same time, mageia would be in 3 mode :
+ - The LTS
+ - The common release
+ - The cauldron.
+
+ With that kind of stuff, you should have no more than one + release for public at a time, and just one LTS.
+ If you update main software(we could define a list of no more + than 20 software) people who are crasy about new function, or + developper who need tham to develop new stuff would be happy.
+
+ BTW : I think mailing list are totally outdated and that mageia + should have a special section in this forum for these + discussion, or maybe another forum.
+ It's totally impossible for people who want to participate + sometimes to follow you emails everydays. It's much faster to + read some topic on a forum than dozens emails. And your final + user should be able to know what happen easily. It would be a + big + in front of others distributions.
+
+ by claire + » Jun 16th, '11, 14:27 +
+
+
pmithrandir wrote:On my side, I think mageia + should do a "mix" of others idea.
+
+ I would say :
+ - A release every year.
+ - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff + (firefox, chrome, libreoffice...)
+ - During this year also a way to add some new package if + needed or if there is some instant success for a new software.
+
+ Every 3 years, the release is LTS and that mean it would be + maintain for 4 years.
+
+ So at the same time, mageia would be in 3 mode :
+ - The LTS
+ - The common release
+ - The cauldron.
+
+
+
+
+ I completely agree with this. There is no real need to rush + releases as long as new versions are easily available. I know + backports repo is available but its not very user friendly. As an + example, the newer versions of Openshot video editor have a very + nice feature of being able to do animated titles. To be able to + use them you need Blender 2.5. Whilst Mageia includes Openshot + 1.3.1 (which errors with missing plugins btw) which at time of + writing is current it still has Blender 2.49b.
+
+ It would be useful if there were a nice user friendly way to + upgrade Blender when it is backported. Something to let ordinary + users know a newer version is available and a simple click to + upgrade it.
+
+ LTS releases in Ubuntu IMHO are a great idea and one which would + add value to mageia as a potential server/business OS where + stability over time is crucial.
+
+ I dont think Joe Bloggs really cares about a 6 monthly + distribution upgrade, only that new versions of the software they + use are easily obtainable in the mean time and won't break the + distribution upgrade when it comes around.
+ + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5663f737/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5663f737/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..92d113d5f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5663f737/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ + + + + + + +  by pmithrandir + » Jun 13th, '11, 20:21 +
+
On my side, I think mageia should do a "mix" + of others idea.
+
+ I would say :
+ - A release every year.
+ - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff (firefox, + chrome, libreoffice...)
+ - During this year also a way to add some new package if needed + or if there is some instant success for a new software.
+
+ Every 3 years, the release is LTS and that mean it would be + maintain for 4 years.
+
+ So at the same time, mageia would be in 3 mode :
+ - The LTS
+ - The common release
+ - The cauldron.
+
+ With that kind of stuff, you should have no more than one + release for public at a time, and just one LTS.
+ If you update main software(we could define a list of no more + than 20 software) people who are crasy about new function, or + developper who need tham to develop new stuff would be happy.
+
+ BTW : I think mailing list are totally outdated and that mageia + should have a special section in this forum for these + discussion, or maybe another forum.
+ It's totally impossible for people who want to participate + sometimes to follow you emails everydays. It's much faster to + read some topic on a forum than dozens emails. And your final + user should be able to know what happen easily. It would be a + big + in front of others distributions.
+
+ by claire + » Jun 16th, '11, 14:27 +
+
+
pmithrandir wrote:On my side, I think mageia + should do a "mix" of others idea.
+
+ I would say :
+ - A release every year.
+ - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff + (firefox, chrome, libreoffice...)
+ - During this year also a way to add some new package if + needed or if there is some instant success for a new software.
+
+ Every 3 years, the release is LTS and that mean it would be + maintain for 4 years.
+
+ So at the same time, mageia would be in 3 mode :
+ - The LTS
+ - The common release
+ - The cauldron.
+
+
+
+
+ I completely agree with this. There is no real need to rush + releases as long as new versions are easily available. I know + backports repo is available but its not very user friendly. As an + example, the newer versions of Openshot video editor have a very + nice feature of being able to do animated titles. To be able to + use them you need Blender 2.5. Whilst Mageia includes Openshot + 1.3.1 (which errors with missing plugins btw) which at time of + writing is current it still has Blender 2.49b.
+
+ It would be useful if there were a nice user friendly way to + upgrade Blender when it is backported. Something to let ordinary + users know a newer version is available and a simple click to + upgrade it.
+
+ LTS releases in Ubuntu IMHO are a great idea and one which would + add value to mageia as a potential server/business OS where + stability over time is crucial.
+
+ I dont think Joe Bloggs really cares about a 6 monthly + distribution upgrade, only that new versions of the software they + use are easily obtainable in the mean time and won't break the + distribution upgrade when it comes around.
+ + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5bcc37a5/attachment-0001.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5bcc37a5/attachment-0001.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4dc4ec528 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5bcc37a5/attachment-0001.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAk355PUACgkQqEs9DA4DquCOwgCggaDHKD87LKnc7aSMTvz0OJsG +ha4AoIJ1kn/UJgBhQVXtUWeUGgaCkhvU +=FI79 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5bcc37a5/attachment.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5bcc37a5/attachment.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4dc4ec528 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5bcc37a5/attachment.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAk355PUACgkQqEs9DA4DquCOwgCggaDHKD87LKnc7aSMTvz0OJsG +ha4AoIJ1kn/UJgBhQVXtUWeUGgaCkhvU +=FI79 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5e3bb9b0/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5e3bb9b0/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c5cc86281 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5e3bb9b0/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,36 @@ +
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Marianne Lombard <marianne@tuxette.fr> wrote:
+Le 16/06/2011 19:16, José Jorge a écrit :

+
+Le jeudi 16 juin 2011 12:39:49, Michael Scherer a écrit :
+
+So I think we can find a better system for proposing software that
+grouping together in some rpm that pull everything.
+
+You mean something like Ubuntu's "logithèque"? I agree, but that's lots of
+work. A task package by my view is used this way :
+
+- hi I discover linux, is there any education soft?
+- install task-edu, and try them.
+
+I always do that for newcomers
+
+José
+
+I think a web page (or a group of ) will be better
+We can present the software, explain how to install, etc
+
+The need are very different between a 4 or 5 years child (who will love Gcompris or other similar programm) and 10-12 years, very fond of stargazing, who will ask for stellarium or marble
+
+My 2 cents
+
+Jehane
+
+
+
+--
+Marianne Lombard (Jehane)
+Mageia User - Mageia french translation team
+Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a lot of chocolate) - Terry Pratchett
+
+

A Live CD which will provide all of this programs would be nice too. And we will need a little bit of advertisement to find new people and even children using this programs.
+

--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Greetings

Daniel Kreuter



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On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Marianne Lombard <marianne@tuxette.fr> wrote:
+Le 16/06/2011 19:16, José Jorge a écrit :

+
+Le jeudi 16 juin 2011 12:39:49, Michael Scherer a écrit :
+
+So I think we can find a better system for proposing software that
+grouping together in some rpm that pull everything.
+
+You mean something like Ubuntu's "logithèque"? I agree, but that's lots of
+work. A task package by my view is used this way :
+
+- hi I discover linux, is there any education soft?
+- install task-edu, and try them.
+
+I always do that for newcomers
+
+José
+
+I think a web page (or a group of ) will be better
+We can present the software, explain how to install, etc
+
+The need are very different between a 4 or 5 years child (who will love Gcompris or other similar programm) and 10-12 years, very fond of stargazing, who will ask for stellarium or marble
+
+My 2 cents
+
+Jehane
+
+
+
+--
+Marianne Lombard (Jehane)
+Mageia User - Mageia french translation team
+Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a lot of chocolate) - Terry Pratchett
+
+

A Live CD which will provide all of this programs would be nice too. And we will need a little bit of advertisement to find new people and even children using this programs.
+

--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Greetings

Daniel Kreuter



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2011/6/16 lebarhon <lebarhon@free.fr>
+ + + + + +
It would be useful if there were a nice user friendly way to + upgrade Blender when it is backported. Something to let ordinary + users know a newer version is available and a simple click to + upgrade it.

Look to Mageia App DB (in testing)
There is growing a good interface.
+

http://88.191.121.20/madb/mageia/index.php/rpm/list/distrelease/2/application/0/arch/2/source/0/listtype/updates_testing/page/1
+
The link shows the update soon coming.



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2011/6/16 lebarhon <lebarhon@free.fr>
+ + + + + +
It would be useful if there were a nice user friendly way to + upgrade Blender when it is backported. Something to let ordinary + users know a newer version is available and a simple click to + upgrade it.

Look to Mageia App DB (in testing)
There is growing a good interface.
+

http://88.191.121.20/madb/mageia/index.php/rpm/list/distrelease/2/application/0/arch/2/source/0/listtype/updates_testing/page/1
+
The link shows the update soon coming.



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On my side, I think mageia should do a "mix" of + others idea.
+
+ I would say :
+ - A release every year.
+ - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff (firefox, + chrome, libreoffice...)
+ - During this year also a way to add some new package if needed or + if there is some instant success for a new software.
+
+ Every 3 years, the release is LTS and that mean it would be + maintain for 4 years.
+
+ So at the same time, mageia would be in 3 mode :
+ - The LTS
+ - The common release
+ - The cauldron.
+
+ With that kind of stuff, you should have no more than one release + for public at a time, and just one LTS.
+ If you update main software(we could define a list of no more than + 20 software) people who are crasy about new function, or + developper who need tham to develop new stuff would be happy.
+
+ BTW : I think mailing list are totally outdated and that mageia + should have a special section in this forum for these discussion, + or maybe another forum.
+ It's totally impossible for people who want to participate + sometimes to follow you emails everydays. It's much faster to read + some topic on a forum than dozens emails. And your final user + should be able to know what happen easily. It would be a big + in + front of others distributions.
+ + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/acf83a0c/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/acf83a0c/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a5d0c2f77 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/acf83a0c/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,45 @@ + + + + + + + + by pmithrandir + » Jun 13th, '11, 20:21 +
On my side, I think mageia should do a "mix" of + others idea.
+
+ I would say :
+ - A release every year.
+ - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff (firefox, + chrome, libreoffice...)
+ - During this year also a way to add some new package if needed or + if there is some instant success for a new software.
+
+ Every 3 years, the release is LTS and that mean it would be + maintain for 4 years.
+
+ So at the same time, mageia would be in 3 mode :
+ - The LTS
+ - The common release
+ - The cauldron.
+
+ With that kind of stuff, you should have no more than one release + for public at a time, and just one LTS.
+ If you update main software(we could define a list of no more than + 20 software) people who are crasy about new function, or + developper who need tham to develop new stuff would be happy.
+
+ BTW : I think mailing list are totally outdated and that mageia + should have a special section in this forum for these discussion, + or maybe another forum.
+ It's totally impossible for people who want to participate + sometimes to follow you emails everydays. It's much faster to read + some topic on a forum than dozens emails. And your final user + should be able to know what happen easily. It would be a big + in + front of others distributions.
+ + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/b89fd0ec/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/b89fd0ec/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c96289f1f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/b89fd0ec/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,38 @@ +
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Donald Stewart <watersnowrock@gmail.com> wrote:
+
On 15 June 2011 13:35, Ahmad Samir <ahmadsamir3891@gmail.com> wrote:
+> On 14 June 2011 14:32, Frank Griffin <ftg@roadrunner.com> wrote:
+>> On 06/14/2011 08:22 AM, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+>>>
+>>> Upgrading stable firefox to firefox5rc and importing firefox-{beta,aurora}
+>>> are two distinct orthogonal things IMHO.
+>>>
+>>> since firefox5 is near being released, I think we should update
+>>> main xulrunner+firefox to 5 anyway
+>>>
+>> Whatever we do, please don't put it in Core to replace FF4 until the add-ons
+>> have been updated.  It was really annoying to lose the Tor add-on for months
+>> because the beta FF4 just showed up and replaced FF3, and the Tor add-on
+>> wasn't updated until the release or just before.
+>>
+>
+> As I said, we have to have the Beta versions, so as to work out the
+> niggles to be ready to push the stable version to stable releases
+> (Mageia 1).
+>
+> You can always workaround the compatibility, either:
+> - Adding it manually http://kb.mozillazine.org/Extensions.checkCompatibility OR
+> - Using this extension
+> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/
+>
+> in my experience, 90% of the time the addon will work with a new
+> version of FF (but then again I use a limited number of addons).
+>
+> --
+> Ahmad Samir
+>
+
+
I'm with Ahmad, going for beta for testing seems right. The beta
+release stage should be long enough for issues to be sorted so aurora
+isn't needed.
+

Ok Mozilla has the RC1 released. Final shall come on Tuesday 21st June so yeah we will include that in Mageia 2 I think (as least this one, maybe FF6 or 7 depending on which version will be available i think)
+
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Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Greetings

Daniel Kreuter



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On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Donald Stewart <watersnowrock@gmail.com> wrote:
+
On 15 June 2011 13:35, Ahmad Samir <ahmadsamir3891@gmail.com> wrote:
+> On 14 June 2011 14:32, Frank Griffin <ftg@roadrunner.com> wrote:
+>> On 06/14/2011 08:22 AM, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+>>>
+>>> Upgrading stable firefox to firefox5rc and importing firefox-{beta,aurora}
+>>> are two distinct orthogonal things IMHO.
+>>>
+>>> since firefox5 is near being released, I think we should update
+>>> main xulrunner+firefox to 5 anyway
+>>>
+>> Whatever we do, please don't put it in Core to replace FF4 until the add-ons
+>> have been updated.  It was really annoying to lose the Tor add-on for months
+>> because the beta FF4 just showed up and replaced FF3, and the Tor add-on
+>> wasn't updated until the release or just before.
+>>
+>
+> As I said, we have to have the Beta versions, so as to work out the
+> niggles to be ready to push the stable version to stable releases
+> (Mageia 1).
+>
+> You can always workaround the compatibility, either:
+> - Adding it manually http://kb.mozillazine.org/Extensions.checkCompatibility OR
+> - Using this extension
+> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/
+>
+> in my experience, 90% of the time the addon will work with a new
+> version of FF (but then again I use a limited number of addons).
+>
+> --
+> Ahmad Samir
+>
+
+
I'm with Ahmad, going for beta for testing seems right. The beta
+release stage should be long enough for issues to be sorted so aurora
+isn't needed.
+

Ok Mozilla has the RC1 released. Final shall come on Tuesday 21st June so yeah we will include that in Mageia 2 I think (as least this one, maybe FF6 or 7 depending on which version will be available i think)
+
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Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Greetings

Daniel Kreuter



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