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2010/9/23 vfmBOFH <vfmbofh@gmail.com>
+


2010/9/23 Matheus Santana <matheusslima@yahoo.com.br>
+
+
Hi!

Im from Brazil and want to help with anything to the project. Please tell me if need.

Regards,
Matheus
+ +

+ + + +  
_______________________________________________
+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+
Hi, matheus.

Please visit the mageia wiki and add your name on the categories where you think you can help.

mageia.org/wiki/doku.php
+ +

Cheers and welcome aboard!
+
_______________________________________________
+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+

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2010/9/23 vfmBOFH <vfmbofh@gmail.com>
+


2010/9/23 Matheus Santana <matheusslima@yahoo.com.br>
+
+
Hi!

Im from Brazil and want to help with anything to the project. Please tell me if need.

Regards,
Matheus
+ +

+ + + +  
_______________________________________________
+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+
Hi, matheus.

Please visit the mageia wiki and add your name on the categories where you think you can help.

mageia.org/wiki/doku.php
+ +

Cheers and welcome aboard!
+
_______________________________________________
+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+

diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/2394fcea/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/2394fcea/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..db6e58f99 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/2394fcea/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +Although Ubuntu's target description suits me well, I think, it did not catch me. Their palette is in colors of my home, but un my top box I need to have somethinng geek, shiny, cool, sci-fi, strong, aggressive...
That's why I do prefer an orb as logo, because it is so versatile. The shape,  materials, the symbols. Easy to remember. But I guess it is taken... Is it?
+Ubuntu failed miserably in my case... In look and stability. I think it is of a good marketing though.
Is the name 'Mageia' immutable? Do you suggest to rename it?

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Graham Lauder <yorick_@openoffice.org> wrote:
+
The artguide and logo guidelines are seriously incomplete and need a lot of
+work.  Free software projects have a history of rushing into branding that
+they will be stuck with for a very long time, from logo to colour scheme to
+pallett.  If it's not thought through and given the consideration it needs, it
+can turn into a millstone around the projects neck or a chaotic round of ever
+changing looks that confuses the market.
+
+The project needs to get it's branding process it's organised.  Until then
+everything should be fluid, even the name should be seen as a "Working Title".
+
+So therefore:
+
+We need to identify our vision,
+Identify the way we want the world to see us.
+We need to identify our target market
+and then come up with a Brand to suit that market.
+
+The brand does not have to be out there until the announcement of the first
+release.
+The brand that is created now, will shackle the Marketing team for all time.
+The marketing team will only hang around if the brand is good.  Hackers need
+the tools to do their job, if the IDE they are forced to use when making code
+is a pile of shit then they'll go elsewhere.  It's the same with marketers,
+give them a good brand and they'll come in droves to be part of it.
+
+Ubuntu's strength was in that initial marketing, targeted at 18 to 35 age
+group with warm a comforting and attractive pallett (Browns Reds and Yellows)
+and a slightly zany way of doing things (Warty Warthog and so on)  They
+identified a market of young people of  above average intelligence who were
+not satisfied with the cold clinical professional brand of principal market
+leader.
+
+This group had several advantageous facets to them.
+1) They were leaders and early adopters of new technology
+2) They were rebellious to a degree
+3) They had a very positive view of themselves
+4) They felt that they deserved to be noticed and that the world should do
+stuff for them.
+
+So Ubuntu's branding is aimed directly at that market and very successfully.
+
+The problem that many projects suffer from is that they come up with a
+branding that feels good to their own community, while ignoring the market.
+And make no bones about it, much of the reason that Ubuntu gets lots of
+developers is because of it's wide user base.  That makes it sexy, the
+opportunity to be famous:  "I am part of that.."
+
+Now there is a good argument to be made for going after the same market for
+all of the above reasons.
+
+We can learn some lessons from the way Ubuntu did things.
+
+They leveraged their location, used a local language and traditions to give
+them a name and a story:  Ubuntu = Humanity to Humans and a logo that reflects
+and enhances that story.
+
+For me, for this project, I think it's untapped branding strength is in it's
+Latin South American Heritage. Connectiva.
+
+Connection,
+Computers are about connecting with others and when the world thinks about
+South America and connecting they think Dance, .. Tango.  If it was my project
+in these circumstances I'd be calling it Tango-Linux. The name even
+immediately evokes the branding colours and the pallet, Bold Blacks, Fiery
+Reds  and silvers, the colours of passion.  Tango evokes passion, rebellion
+but at the same time precision and teamwork.
+
+Unfortunately there is already a Tango Linux, not to mention the Tango Icon
+project, but you get the idea.
+
+
+To conclude: my point is that there needs to be much more consideration given
+to the branding elements at this point before we start voting on logos and the
+like and I would like to see everything up for discussion, name included, we
+are brand new, the world is watching, this is our unique opportunity we need
+to stamp our mark boldly but with serious consideration of our goals.
+
+Of course the communities desire maybe just to stay as a small minor player in
+the desktop universe, but if that's the case this is not the Mandrake I knew
+back at 8.0 when It was on every other computer magazine cover CD, and it was
+going after the market in a big way, not worrying about the Ubuntus and
+Redhats but out to take down the Redmond machine.  Personally I think that
+spirit is still there.
+
+
+--
+Graham Lauder,
+OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ
+http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html
+
+OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant.
+
+INGOTs Assessor Trainer
+(International Grades in Open Technologies)
+www.theingots.org
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+

diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/2394fcea/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/2394fcea/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..db6e58f99 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/2394fcea/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +Although Ubuntu's target description suits me well, I think, it did not catch me. Their palette is in colors of my home, but un my top box I need to have somethinng geek, shiny, cool, sci-fi, strong, aggressive...
That's why I do prefer an orb as logo, because it is so versatile. The shape,  materials, the symbols. Easy to remember. But I guess it is taken... Is it?
+Ubuntu failed miserably in my case... In look and stability. I think it is of a good marketing though.
Is the name 'Mageia' immutable? Do you suggest to rename it?

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Graham Lauder <yorick_@openoffice.org> wrote:
+
The artguide and logo guidelines are seriously incomplete and need a lot of
+work.  Free software projects have a history of rushing into branding that
+they will be stuck with for a very long time, from logo to colour scheme to
+pallett.  If it's not thought through and given the consideration it needs, it
+can turn into a millstone around the projects neck or a chaotic round of ever
+changing looks that confuses the market.
+
+The project needs to get it's branding process it's organised.  Until then
+everything should be fluid, even the name should be seen as a "Working Title".
+
+So therefore:
+
+We need to identify our vision,
+Identify the way we want the world to see us.
+We need to identify our target market
+and then come up with a Brand to suit that market.
+
+The brand does not have to be out there until the announcement of the first
+release.
+The brand that is created now, will shackle the Marketing team for all time.
+The marketing team will only hang around if the brand is good.  Hackers need
+the tools to do their job, if the IDE they are forced to use when making code
+is a pile of shit then they'll go elsewhere.  It's the same with marketers,
+give them a good brand and they'll come in droves to be part of it.
+
+Ubuntu's strength was in that initial marketing, targeted at 18 to 35 age
+group with warm a comforting and attractive pallett (Browns Reds and Yellows)
+and a slightly zany way of doing things (Warty Warthog and so on)  They
+identified a market of young people of  above average intelligence who were
+not satisfied with the cold clinical professional brand of principal market
+leader.
+
+This group had several advantageous facets to them.
+1) They were leaders and early adopters of new technology
+2) They were rebellious to a degree
+3) They had a very positive view of themselves
+4) They felt that they deserved to be noticed and that the world should do
+stuff for them.
+
+So Ubuntu's branding is aimed directly at that market and very successfully.
+
+The problem that many projects suffer from is that they come up with a
+branding that feels good to their own community, while ignoring the market.
+And make no bones about it, much of the reason that Ubuntu gets lots of
+developers is because of it's wide user base.  That makes it sexy, the
+opportunity to be famous:  "I am part of that.."
+
+Now there is a good argument to be made for going after the same market for
+all of the above reasons.
+
+We can learn some lessons from the way Ubuntu did things.
+
+They leveraged their location, used a local language and traditions to give
+them a name and a story:  Ubuntu = Humanity to Humans and a logo that reflects
+and enhances that story.
+
+For me, for this project, I think it's untapped branding strength is in it's
+Latin South American Heritage. Connectiva.
+
+Connection,
+Computers are about connecting with others and when the world thinks about
+South America and connecting they think Dance, .. Tango.  If it was my project
+in these circumstances I'd be calling it Tango-Linux. The name even
+immediately evokes the branding colours and the pallet, Bold Blacks, Fiery
+Reds  and silvers, the colours of passion.  Tango evokes passion, rebellion
+but at the same time precision and teamwork.
+
+Unfortunately there is already a Tango Linux, not to mention the Tango Icon
+project, but you get the idea.
+
+
+To conclude: my point is that there needs to be much more consideration given
+to the branding elements at this point before we start voting on logos and the
+like and I would like to see everything up for discussion, name included, we
+are brand new, the world is watching, this is our unique opportunity we need
+to stamp our mark boldly but with serious consideration of our goals.
+
+Of course the communities desire maybe just to stay as a small minor player in
+the desktop universe, but if that's the case this is not the Mandrake I knew
+back at 8.0 when It was on every other computer magazine cover CD, and it was
+going after the market in a big way, not worrying about the Ubuntus and
+Redhats but out to take down the Redmond machine.  Personally I think that
+spirit is still there.
+
+
+--
+Graham Lauder,
+OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ
+http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html
+
+OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant.
+
+INGOTs Assessor Trainer
+(International Grades in Open Technologies)
+www.theingots.org
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+

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2010/9/23 Jan Gehring <jan.gehring@gmail.com>
+Hi all,
+
+i'm happy to see this project to create a community driven "mandriva"
+distribution.
+
+I'm a perl, php developer and linux system engineer (mainly focused on
+apache/tomcat, xen/openvz and clustering)
+
+If you need someone for your perl, php, tomcat or xen/openvz team to
+package, test or develop please let me know how i can help.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Jan
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+

Hi, Jan.

Please, go to mageia wiki (http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php) and add your name in the categories you think can help.

Welcome aboard!
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2010/9/23 Jan Gehring <jan.gehring@gmail.com>
+Hi all,
+
+i'm happy to see this project to create a community driven "mandriva"
+distribution.
+
+I'm a perl, php developer and linux system engineer (mainly focused on
+apache/tomcat, xen/openvz and clustering)
+
+If you need someone for your perl, php, tomcat or xen/openvz team to
+package, test or develop please let me know how i can help.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Jan
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+

Hi, Jan.

Please, go to mageia wiki (http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php) and add your name in the categories you think can help.

Welcome aboard!
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/56501e71/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/56501e71/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..25ca3298d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/56501e71/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +I'm just like you, and my English is worth, when I can ask, we will be vigilant.

2010/9/23 Matheus Santana <matheusslima@yahoo.com.br>
+
+Hi!

Im from Brazil and want to help with anything to the project. Please tell me if need.

Regards,
Matheus


+ + + +  
_______________________________________________
+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+

diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/56501e71/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/56501e71/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..25ca3298d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/56501e71/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +I'm just like you, and my English is worth, when I can ask, we will be vigilant.

2010/9/23 Matheus Santana <matheusslima@yahoo.com.br>
+
+Hi!

Im from Brazil and want to help with anything to the project. Please tell me if need.

Regards,
Matheus


+ + + +  
_______________________________________________
+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+

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2010/9/22 Anne nicolas <ennael1@gmail.com>
+Hi all
+
+News on our messy kitchen available below :)
+http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18
+
+(other languages coming soon)
+
+As you can see work is going on and we are doing everything so that we
+can start very soon.
+As a reminder, you can register on http://mageia.org/wiki if you wish
+to contribute or have a look on http://donation.mageia.org to help
+Mageia project.
+
+Thanks again for your support
+Cheers!
+
+-------
+Anne
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+

I'll take te text to the MDKTrans team in order to provide the spanish translation

Cheers
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2010/9/22 Anne nicolas <ennael1@gmail.com>
+Hi all
+
+News on our messy kitchen available below :)
+http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18
+
+(other languages coming soon)
+
+As you can see work is going on and we are doing everything so that we
+can start very soon.
+As a reminder, you can register on http://mageia.org/wiki if you wish
+to contribute or have a look on http://donation.mageia.org to help
+Mageia project.
+
+Thanks again for your support
+Cheers!
+
+-------
+Anne
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+

I'll take te text to the MDKTrans team in order to provide the spanish translation

Cheers
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Please, don't shoot me for bringing the idea of renaming in discussion.
My experience as software developer tells me that chosing wrong in the beginning comes with great suffer after and might be harder and harder to fix it.
+What is the target of Mageia after all? And who?
Me, only me, I like to think of Mageia as a fine trick of Babylon 5 Technomages.
I would like to see it full of high tech references, less mystique, more technical metaphors - I prefer an orb split two revealing circuits, than witches. I've always liked to look forward, into space age, rather than middle ages.
+But this is just me AFAIK...
And I love Mandriva as final product, so I fully trust its core developers that forked Mageia. I watched them for years and I feel about them as they are my friends. Please don't seed the discontent now, from the beginning. It was enough Mandriva's story.
+No matter the name - you might change it again or not - I will follow.

Mike,
user.
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/8400435b/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/8400435b/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1b21c9bac --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20100923/8400435b/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,4 @@ +IMHO, Graham is good. He convinced me.
Please, don't shoot me for bringing the idea of renaming in discussion.
My experience as software developer tells me that chosing wrong in the beginning comes with great suffer after and might be harder and harder to fix it.
+What is the target of Mageia after all? And who?
Me, only me, I like to think of Mageia as a fine trick of Babylon 5 Technomages.
I would like to see it full of high tech references, less mystique, more technical metaphors - I prefer an orb split two revealing circuits, than witches. I've always liked to look forward, into space age, rather than middle ages.
+But this is just me AFAIK...
And I love Mandriva as final product, so I fully trust its core developers that forked Mageia. I watched them for years and I feel about them as they are my friends. Please don't seed the discontent now, from the beginning. It was enough Mandriva's story.
+No matter the name - you might change it again or not - I will follow.

Mike,
user.
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2010/9/23 vfmBOFH <vfmbofh@gmail.com>
+

2010/9/22 Anne nicolas <ennael1@gmail.com>
+ +Hi all

+
+News on our messy kitchen available below :)
+http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18
+
+(other languages coming soon)
+
+As you can see work is going on and we are doing everything so that we
+can start very soon.
+As a reminder, you can register on http://mageia.org/wiki if you wish
+to contribute or have a look on http://donation.mageia.org to help
+Mageia project.
+
+Thanks again for your support
+Cheers!
+
+-------
+Anne
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+

I'll take te text to the MDKTrans team in order to provide the spanish translation

Cheers
+

Hi again.

Here's the spanish translation, courtesy of MDKTrans:
------------------------------------------------
¡Atención, atención!
+
+Ahora que el anuncio ha sido un gran éxito, las discusiones ya están
+en curso en las listas de correo (una vez mas, todos ustedes son
+increíbles, chicos), ahora necesitamos establecer bases sólidas para
+Mageia. Veremos cada uno de estos puntos con mayor detalle, pero aquí
+va un resumen:
+
+Infraestructura y herramientas
+
+Establecer una infraestructura es una de las cosas más importantes. Ha
+comenzado con el uso de recursos temporales para tener en linea los
+servicios principales lo más pronto posible:
+
+El blog de Mageia se puso en linea ayer (sólo en inglés por el
+momento, configuraremos otros idiomas muy pronto)
+
+Se ha abierto un wiki temporal para ayudar a todos a registrarse en
+diversos equipos; estos equipos tendrán listas de correo dedicadas.
+para comenzar, deberán nombrar un representante + un delegado y luego
+podrán comenzar a trabajar en las distintas tareas (ver mas abajo).
+
+Los foros de usuario también están en camino - tendremos un foro
+oficial en inglés, junto con enlaces a foros regionales los cuales ya
+están activos y listos para dar la bienvenida a usuarios de distintos
+países (Blogdrake, mandrivausers-de, LKO...). Si cree que un idioma no
+está representado en alguno de los foros existentes, por favor
+envíenos un correo a mageia-contact EN gmai.com para que podamos
+añadir por ahora, un nuevo espacio en el(los) servidor(es) de Mageia.
+Agradecemos especialmente a Paul Willard y Raphael Jador quienes
+liderarán esta ardua labor.
+
+También tenemos diversas propuestas para los mirrors de Mageia
+
+Las dicusiones están en curso y estamos trabajando en establecer el
+sistema de construcción; ese será el mayor hito técnico para todos
+nosotros, el cual nos permitirá comenzar a trabajar en la distribución
+propiamente tal.
+
+
+Logo
+
+¡Necesitamos un logo (y uno fabuloso) y un diseño global para Mageia!
+
+Ya hemos redactado un borrador con algunas guías de estilo del logo
+(por favor, revisarlas cuidadosamente) y encontrarán las diversas
+propuestas en esta galería. Siéntase libre de enviar nuevos diseños o
+comentarios sobre los existentes.
+
+
+Organización
+
+Conitnuamos trabajando en la creación de una asociación para Mageia.
+Esto nos permitirá contar con una junta oficial al frente del proyecto
+para conseguir finaciamiento, para solicitar diferentes tipos de ayuda
+y para ser capaces de garantizar el futuro de Mageia.
+
+Los estatutos aún están siendo escritos (en francés) y el concejo
+fundador debería constituirse pronto (esperamos que sea equilibrado y
+eficaz, aunque específicamente dedicado a tareas de fundación; las
+elecciones de renovación por parte de terceros iniciará mas tarde).
+Esta junta dirigirá la cocina, coordinando con los delegados de cada
+equipo la conducción de los diversos aspectos de la distribución
+(diseño, desarrollo, pruebas, producción, distribución, promoción,
+etc.) en adelante.
+
+Aún tenemos muchas preguntas sin respuesta para las cuales nos
+gustaría contar con más puntos de vista y opiniones antes de tomar una
+decisión final. Detallaremos nuestra idea sobre las funciones de la
+organización en próximas publicaciones y recogeremos consejos sobre
+puntos concretos antes de decidir que hacer.
+
+Oh, mientras tanto pueden efectuar donaciones mediante Paypal y/o
+transferencia bancaria. La finaciación es fundamental para poder
+montar una infraestructura independiente y otros elementos necesarios.
+
+Finalmente, ya contamos con muchos contactos de las otras comunidades
+alrededor de Mandriva. Unity Linux ya está tomando una muy activa
+participación en las discusiones. Otros son bienvenidos a unirse:
+simplemente contáctennos en IRC, por listas de correo o por el correo
+personal.
+
+¡De nuevo, estamos muy agradecidos por el apoyo!
----------------------------------------------------------------

Cheers,
vfmBOFH
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2010/9/23 vfmBOFH <vfmbofh@gmail.com>
+

2010/9/22 Anne nicolas <ennael1@gmail.com>
+ +Hi all

+
+News on our messy kitchen available below :)
+http://blog.mageia.org/?p=18
+
+(other languages coming soon)
+
+As you can see work is going on and we are doing everything so that we
+can start very soon.
+As a reminder, you can register on http://mageia.org/wiki if you wish
+to contribute or have a look on http://donation.mageia.org to help
+Mageia project.
+
+Thanks again for your support
+Cheers!
+
+-------
+Anne
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+

I'll take te text to the MDKTrans team in order to provide the spanish translation

Cheers
+

Hi again.

Here's the spanish translation, courtesy of MDKTrans:
------------------------------------------------
¡Atención, atención!
+
+Ahora que el anuncio ha sido un gran éxito, las discusiones ya están
+en curso en las listas de correo (una vez mas, todos ustedes son
+increíbles, chicos), ahora necesitamos establecer bases sólidas para
+Mageia. Veremos cada uno de estos puntos con mayor detalle, pero aquí
+va un resumen:
+
+Infraestructura y herramientas
+
+Establecer una infraestructura es una de las cosas más importantes. Ha
+comenzado con el uso de recursos temporales para tener en linea los
+servicios principales lo más pronto posible:
+
+El blog de Mageia se puso en linea ayer (sólo en inglés por el
+momento, configuraremos otros idiomas muy pronto)
+
+Se ha abierto un wiki temporal para ayudar a todos a registrarse en
+diversos equipos; estos equipos tendrán listas de correo dedicadas.
+para comenzar, deberán nombrar un representante + un delegado y luego
+podrán comenzar a trabajar en las distintas tareas (ver mas abajo).
+
+Los foros de usuario también están en camino - tendremos un foro
+oficial en inglés, junto con enlaces a foros regionales los cuales ya
+están activos y listos para dar la bienvenida a usuarios de distintos
+países (Blogdrake, mandrivausers-de, LKO...). Si cree que un idioma no
+está representado en alguno de los foros existentes, por favor
+envíenos un correo a mageia-contact EN gmai.com para que podamos
+añadir por ahora, un nuevo espacio en el(los) servidor(es) de Mageia.
+Agradecemos especialmente a Paul Willard y Raphael Jador quienes
+liderarán esta ardua labor.
+
+También tenemos diversas propuestas para los mirrors de Mageia
+
+Las dicusiones están en curso y estamos trabajando en establecer el
+sistema de construcción; ese será el mayor hito técnico para todos
+nosotros, el cual nos permitirá comenzar a trabajar en la distribución
+propiamente tal.
+
+
+Logo
+
+¡Necesitamos un logo (y uno fabuloso) y un diseño global para Mageia!
+
+Ya hemos redactado un borrador con algunas guías de estilo del logo
+(por favor, revisarlas cuidadosamente) y encontrarán las diversas
+propuestas en esta galería. Siéntase libre de enviar nuevos diseños o
+comentarios sobre los existentes.
+
+
+Organización
+
+Conitnuamos trabajando en la creación de una asociación para Mageia.
+Esto nos permitirá contar con una junta oficial al frente del proyecto
+para conseguir finaciamiento, para solicitar diferentes tipos de ayuda
+y para ser capaces de garantizar el futuro de Mageia.
+
+Los estatutos aún están siendo escritos (en francés) y el concejo
+fundador debería constituirse pronto (esperamos que sea equilibrado y
+eficaz, aunque específicamente dedicado a tareas de fundación; las
+elecciones de renovación por parte de terceros iniciará mas tarde).
+Esta junta dirigirá la cocina, coordinando con los delegados de cada
+equipo la conducción de los diversos aspectos de la distribución
+(diseño, desarrollo, pruebas, producción, distribución, promoción,
+etc.) en adelante.
+
+Aún tenemos muchas preguntas sin respuesta para las cuales nos
+gustaría contar con más puntos de vista y opiniones antes de tomar una
+decisión final. Detallaremos nuestra idea sobre las funciones de la
+organización en próximas publicaciones y recogeremos consejos sobre
+puntos concretos antes de decidir que hacer.
+
+Oh, mientras tanto pueden efectuar donaciones mediante Paypal y/o
+transferencia bancaria. La finaciación es fundamental para poder
+montar una infraestructura independiente y otros elementos necesarios.
+
+Finalmente, ya contamos con muchos contactos de las otras comunidades
+alrededor de Mandriva. Unity Linux ya está tomando una muy activa
+participación en las discusiones. Otros son bienvenidos a unirse:
+simplemente contáctennos en IRC, por listas de correo o por el correo
+personal.
+
+¡De nuevo, estamos muy agradecidos por el apoyo!
----------------------------------------------------------------

Cheers,
vfmBOFH
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On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Marc Paré <marc@marcpare.com> wrote:
+I think in the grand scheme of things, we should all acknowledge that should the name "Mageia" not work, that a name change would be a possibility, just as a logo change is still a possibility. We have seen this from many OSS firms who went through this process.
+ +
+We should be careful in making the distro too "cottagey" or "home grown" in looks and flavour. I would suggest that the long term vision for the distro also include a commercial aspect. There should be a community driven distro and a commercial distro (read server). If we organise under these terms, then the choice of name, logo and branding changes.
+ +
+A name and logo for the Mageia project should exude a community spirit as well a professional corporate spirit. Would a business have a problem repeating "We use the Mageia distro to run our servers and our desktops."? I personally think that the name is solid in this case, whether for community or corporate use. Side note: I prefer the "soft g" sound of the name --- " Mah jay ah " (more like the French "j'ai" sound) -- it sounds classy.
+ +
+So, the logo should then follow suit and exude the same feeling. It should reflect both a feeling of community as well as bear the scrutiny of corporate world. Would they feel confident in hanging our shingle (read logo) on their website's front page? I too tend to sway more towards the simple logo concept. I don't personally think that a magic wand would not work in a corporate setting, this would then limit it's use. We would then have to adopt a corporate logo. I am not sure if this would make good sense as, in a way, we would then be fragmenting the distro. A solid logo for both, in my opinion, would make the most sense.
+ +
+Marc

+
+
+
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+

I'm just a user. I totally agree, although I like to play a little.
I do need a sleek and serious logo/symbol to the OS I use, usually a limo, but able to deploy a super-space-age-robot-ready-to-save-the-universe-if-necessary feeling. This is what I expect. Hope I did not scared you all :D. Hugs.
+
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On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Marc Paré <marc@marcpare.com> wrote:
+I think in the grand scheme of things, we should all acknowledge that should the name "Mageia" not work, that a name change would be a possibility, just as a logo change is still a possibility. We have seen this from many OSS firms who went through this process.
+ +
+We should be careful in making the distro too "cottagey" or "home grown" in looks and flavour. I would suggest that the long term vision for the distro also include a commercial aspect. There should be a community driven distro and a commercial distro (read server). If we organise under these terms, then the choice of name, logo and branding changes.
+ +
+A name and logo for the Mageia project should exude a community spirit as well a professional corporate spirit. Would a business have a problem repeating "We use the Mageia distro to run our servers and our desktops."? I personally think that the name is solid in this case, whether for community or corporate use. Side note: I prefer the "soft g" sound of the name --- " Mah jay ah " (more like the French "j'ai" sound) -- it sounds classy.
+ +
+So, the logo should then follow suit and exude the same feeling. It should reflect both a feeling of community as well as bear the scrutiny of corporate world. Would they feel confident in hanging our shingle (read logo) on their website's front page? I too tend to sway more towards the simple logo concept. I don't personally think that a magic wand would not work in a corporate setting, this would then limit it's use. We would then have to adopt a corporate logo. I am not sure if this would make good sense as, in a way, we would then be fragmenting the distro. A solid logo for both, in my opinion, would make the most sense.
+ +
+Marc

+
+
+
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+

I'm just a user. I totally agree, although I like to play a little.
I do need a sleek and serious logo/symbol to the OS I use, usually a limo, but able to deploy a super-space-age-robot-ready-to-save-the-universe-if-necessary feeling. This is what I expect. Hope I did not scared you all :D. Hugs.
+
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2010/9/23 Tux99 <tux99-mga@uridium.org>
+ +
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Peter Watson wrote:
+
+> Now we really need someone with marketing expertise to drive this
+> issue forward.
+>
+> Question is WHO?
+
+
Umm, I'm sure Graham already said that he is offering himself.
+
+Graham, I'm not a marketing person, but I agree with almost everything
+you say, the only thing that I don't agree with is that the name should
+be up for debate.
+
+Too many practical things depend on the name so if whe change the name,
+everything else will be on hold until then.
+
+I do think Mageia is a good name, that is versatile enough for you to
+work with, it sounds exotic (I didn't know it was greek, it sounded
+spanish to me when i first read it) it's short and unique.
+
+So IMHO feel free to drive the marketing whichever way you like, but
+please don't ask for a name change.
+

+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+

+1 for you
and
+1 for Graham

IMHO, and it has been told before, is that the name is not a problem.

The better example we have is Apple. Stories tell us that the name was a explicit decision because it was impossible to find a "good name". Althoug this story was a lie, is a good example that demonstrate that a simply name with a really good marketing is enought to grow the power of the mark.
+ +
I think that we can start from Mageia, like it evoques the magic world, we can try to explain that it is that all of us are wanting: easy, eyecandy, but powerfull and sturdy.

XescoMM.
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2010/9/23 Tux99 <tux99-mga@uridium.org>
+ +
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Peter Watson wrote:
+
+> Now we really need someone with marketing expertise to drive this
+> issue forward.
+>
+> Question is WHO?
+
+
Umm, I'm sure Graham already said that he is offering himself.
+
+Graham, I'm not a marketing person, but I agree with almost everything
+you say, the only thing that I don't agree with is that the name should
+be up for debate.
+
+Too many practical things depend on the name so if whe change the name,
+everything else will be on hold until then.
+
+I do think Mageia is a good name, that is versatile enough for you to
+work with, it sounds exotic (I didn't know it was greek, it sounded
+spanish to me when i first read it) it's short and unique.
+
+So IMHO feel free to drive the marketing whichever way you like, but
+please don't ask for a name change.
+

+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+

+1 for you
and
+1 for Graham

IMHO, and it has been told before, is that the name is not a problem.

The better example we have is Apple. Stories tell us that the name was a explicit decision because it was impossible to find a "good name". Althoug this story was a lie, is a good example that demonstrate that a simply name with a really good marketing is enought to grow the power of the mark.
+ +
I think that we can start from Mageia, like it evoques the magic world, we can try to explain that it is that all of us are wanting: easy, eyecandy, but powerfull and sturdy.

XescoMM.
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On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli <giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com> wrote:
+I like simple logos.
+
+Simple not necesarily should be poor or ugly.
+
+Logos like Apple, Logitech, RedHat, Pepsi, eyeos, Avast, Facebook,
+Joomla, Opera, even Ubuntu and the "evil" Windows are simple, but look
+great. You can put them wherever you want and they still look good.
+
+I know, some of these logos are almost implanted in our brains because
+of years of marketing. Maybe that's because we see them great.
+
+But they are simple, maybe some are a little abstract. But they
+have... how can I call it... power?
+
+That's what we should try to achieve with Mageia's logo. Not an ugly
+penguin with a hat and a magic wand. You see my point?
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+tavillo1980
+
_______________________________________________
+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+

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On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli <giampaoli.gustavo@gmail.com> wrote:
+I like simple logos.
+
+Simple not necesarily should be poor or ugly.
+
+Logos like Apple, Logitech, RedHat, Pepsi, eyeos, Avast, Facebook,
+Joomla, Opera, even Ubuntu and the "evil" Windows are simple, but look
+great. You can put them wherever you want and they still look good.
+
+I know, some of these logos are almost implanted in our brains because
+of years of marketing. Maybe that's because we see them great.
+
+But they are simple, maybe some are a little abstract. But they
+have... how can I call it... power?
+
+That's what we should try to achieve with Mageia's logo. Not an ugly
+penguin with a hat and a magic wand. You see my point?
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+tavillo1980
+
_______________________________________________
+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+

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2010/9/23 Matheus Santana <matheusslima@yahoo.com.br>
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Hi!

Im from Brazil and want to help with anything to the project. Please tell me if need.

Regards,
Matheus
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Hi, matheus.

Please visit the mageia wiki and add your name on the categories where you think you can help.

mageia.org/wiki/doku.php
+

Cheers and welcome aboard!
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2010/9/23 Matheus Santana <matheusslima@yahoo.com.br>
+
Hi!

Im from Brazil and want to help with anything to the project. Please tell me if need.

Regards,
Matheus
+

+ + + +  
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+Mageia-dev mailing list
+Mageia-dev@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+
Hi, matheus.

Please visit the mageia wiki and add your name on the categories where you think you can help.

mageia.org/wiki/doku.php
+

Cheers and welcome aboard!
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