[Mageia-dev] Gnome mess in Mageia SVN...

Mon Feb 25 04:44:25 CET 2013

On 25/02/13 00:57, Christiaan Welvaart wrote:
+> On Sun, 24 Feb 2013, Sebastian wrote:
+>
+>>> Not to mention there is serious doubts the the 3.8.0 release
+>>> will be good enough to work properly for all endusers when the
+>>> fallback is dropped, so it would need atleast a update to 3.8.x
+>>> as a followup later to provide something that actually works,
+>>> wich comes back to lack of maintainers...
+>>
+>> I don't think Mageia providing GNOME 3.8 with the new classic mode 
+>> made using extensions, rather than the old fall back mode, would 
+>> cause loads of problems: 
+>> http://worldofgnome.org/gnome-classic-not-classic-all/
+>
+> You are not making sense, those screenshots show that these 
+> gnome-shell extensions can't replace gnome-panel.
+I provided that link to give people an idea what the GNOME Classic Mode 
+was about, who didn't really know anything about it or as such. I think 
+these are better at explaining about GNOME Classic Mode: 
+http://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2013/01/25/gnome-3-7-at-the-halfway-mark/ 
+http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/a-quick-look-at-new-gnome-classic.html 
+https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointSeven/Features/DropOrFixFallbackMode 
+http://lwn.net/Articles/526082/
+> Also, software 3D rendering is slow, you do not want to use it in a VM.
+I tried out GNOME Shell in a virtual machine first with Mageia 3 Alpha 3 
+or whichever milestone version had it working like that first, since 
+then run in someting later to like that I think, Anyway I was rather 
+impressed to be able to run it in VirtualBox like that :), oh and this 
+was on a computer with 1GB RAM. I think I might have tried out like that 
+on both my desktop and netbook both 1GB RAM, anyway worked well like 
+that for me :).  Oh sure I think it took some time to load up properly 
+in Virtualbox, but once done WOW :).  However of course I wasn't trying 
+to run Blender or 3D Games or something in the vm as well.
+> However, we may be able to keep our "GNOME Classic" session using 
+> gnome-panel 3.6.x even with gnome 3.8. This would have to be tested, 
+> though.
+I forgot to mention in my original email that maybe both the GNOME 3.6.2 
+fallback mode and the new GNOME Classic mode could be used in Mageia 3.
+> Do you even use it?
+I have used the fallback mode quite a few times,  in Mageia, and even 
+the Ubuntu 12.10 GNOME Remix, however by choice I tend to run GNOME 
+Shell, if I am able to on the computer :).  As for this new GNOME 
+classic mode, no I have not used that yet.
+>
+> Shouldn't we first fix totem, for example? It has 2 menu bars: 
+> "Videos" and "Movie/Edit/...". Then, audio files stop playing after 1 
+> second when "visual effects" are enabled. 5.1 channel audio also 
+> doesn't work right, but the same happens in parole (vlc and mplayer do 
+> proper downmixing).
+Personally if I am watching video on the computer it's usualy Flash 
+video on websites. If I am playing video in a player though, well then 
+that's what I am doing, I don't really care much about fancy features 
+when playing video, I just want my video to work picture and audio :).  
+Also when I do use players I tend not to use Totem, well depends.
+>
+>
+> Finally, totem can't play WMA files because of ffmpeg 1.1. I have a 
+> fix for that ready (update gstreamer1.0-libav to git HEAD) 
+Uhmm I thought it coudn't play WMA unless the correct codec is used 
+since it's a proprietary format?
+> but maybe I need to worry about gnome 3.8 instead. Such an update at 
+> this time should be done properly: packaged and tested on the 
+> packager's machine first, and only when it all works committed to svn 
+> and uploaded.
+Yep that sounds good to me, have it properly done on the packagers 
+machine first, then have it uploaded, if this update is going to happen.
+> But even then we will likely find new problems that need to be fixed 
+> before release.
+Well possibly/probably sure, but since Mageia 3 is now delayed to May 
+3rd, that should give QA enough time to test it :).
+>
+>
+>
+>     Christiaan
+