[Mageia-dev] Gnome mess in Mageia SVN...

Mon Feb 25 02:55:46 CET 2013

On 24/02/13 22:10, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+> 'Twas brillig, and Sebastian at 24/02/13 20:59 did gyre and gimble:
+>> I don't think Mageia providing GNOME 3.8 with the new classic mode made
+>> using extensions, rather than the old fall back mode, would cause loads
+>> of problems: http://worldofgnome.org/gnome-classic-not-classic-all/
+> The issue is not to do with the code itself, but generally to do with
+> how well the rendering stuff works on older hardware without 3D
+> acceleration capabilities. This requires the use of LLVM Pipe IIRC, but
+> I've not investigated this.
+>
+> That said, I'm personally more than happy to discuss the options again,
+> provided we enter it knowing all the potential problems.
+Potential problems yeah, such as how it seems XFCE and LXDE also rely on 
+components from the fallback mode, well according to this: 
+https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointSeven/Features/DropOrFixFallbackMode Of 
+course Fedora 19 will be supporting GNOME 3.8, but also XFCE and LXDE, 
+or so I belive, so one to look at I guess for this kind of thing, as to 
+what they do.
+
+Also after sending the original email I chatted to a good IRC friend of 
+mine about this, and it seems I may have been wrong. That actually the 
+new classic mode doesn't have the same purpouse as the fallback mode did 
+(to be used when the computers can't run GNOME Shell), and that instead 
+it's just really for those that want a more GNOME 2 like interface. The 
+new classic mode really even uses GNOME Shell going by articles, but yep 
+in a seperate session with the extensions instead. So if it isn't a 
+proper fallback replacement as in with the same purpouse, then sure it 
+may be better to use GNOME 3.6 in Mageia 3, because of this,  unless 
+there is a way to use all or most of GNOME 3.8 whilst also providing the 
+GNOME 3.6 fall back mode. Something I forgot to mention in my other email.
+
+As for LLVMPIPE yes that's what's used to run GNOME Shell these days 
+when it can't run a graphics card driver for it, on well computers where 
+it can run LLVMPIPE, or virtual machines even on a computer where it can 
+be used like that.
+>
+> Col
+>
+Sebastian
+