[Mageia-dev] Logging + Provides/Requires (Re: [RFC] rsyslog vs journalctl)

Fri Feb 8 11:31:42 CET 2013

'Twas brillig, and AL13N at 07/02/13 18:43 did gyre and gimble:
+> Op donderdag 7 februari 2013 15:10:43 schreef Guillaume Rousse:
+>> Le 07/02/2013 14:40, Colin Guthrie a écrit :
+>>> Is anyone against the name "system-logger"? If so I'll update things
+>>> accordingly. Other name suggestions welcome.
+>>
+>> Fine with me.
+> 
+> that's fine.
+
+OK, so before I make the changes can we decide on the general process:
+
+ Q) Will we make persistent disk-based journals optional?
+   Yes: Makes it harder to ask a consistent question to extract debug.
+   No: Some people will moan.
+
+To counter the no we can just say: "Just do 'rm -rf /var/log/journal'
+and do that again if we issue updates to the systemd package." Not crazy
+elegant, but at least then it's the exception rather than the rule.
+
+
+Anyway, the reason I ask this question is that because basesystem
+requires systemd, and as systemd would be the package providing
+system-logger, there hardly seems any point in adding system-logger in
+the first place. It would only really make sense if we made it optional.
+
+In all other cases where apps don't strictly need a syslog (i.e.
+fail2ban may be an exception), they should probably just drop the
+requires on syslog-daemon. It's not like you could boot it without
+systemd anyway ;)
+
+
+So what do you think now? Yes or no for forcing disk-based journal logs?
+
+Col
+
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