[Mageia-dev] [RFC] rsyslog vs journalctl

Fri Feb 8 10:54:22 CET 2013

'Twas brillig, and AL13N at 07/02/13 18:40 did gyre and gimble:
+> Op donderdag 7 februari 2013 13:34:06 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+>> 'Twas brillig, and AL13N at 07/02/13 11:40 did gyre and gimble:
+> [...]
+>>> what about the tty12 bug? can this be fixed with journald? it seems to be
+>>> a feature that people don't want to lose?
+>>
+>> Not sure. I'll find out. It should be trivial really... i.e. all it
+>> really needs is a journalctl -f command run on tty12. You could craft an
+>> agetty command that worked like that easily enough, although there may
+>> be something more elegant that is more efficient and cleaner.
+> 
+> since the tty12 "feature" is present now, it would be nice if it could still 
+> be there and started as soon as possible, just like before.
+
+Just to try it, can you set:
+
+TTYPath=/dev/tty12
+ForwardToConsole=yes
+
+in /etc/systemd/journald.conf
+
+
+I'm not 100% sure whether it really should be available by default tho'.
+I mean, if you are a logged in user you cannot view the system logs
+unless you are in the adm group or root. Why should you just be able to
+see it via switching to a tty? Seems somewhat counter intuitive to me.
+
+Of course you could say that if someone has physical access then all
+bets are off anyway... but IMO it does still seem slightly juxtaposed.
+
+Thoughts welcome on whether:
+ a) This should be off by default (as now - but change from classic syslog)
+ b) We should default it to on.
+ c) We should provide an easy to use ticky box to turn it off/on easily
+via GUI.
+
+Regardless, we should probably configure all syslogs to not do this by
+default (as it will class if it's enabled in the journal).
+
+Thoughts?
+
+Col
+
+
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