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+    <B>rihoward1 at gmail.com</B> 
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+    <I>Sun Sep 16 18:13:24 CEST 2012</I>
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+On Sep 9, 2012, at 3:10 AM, Julien wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Le Sun, 09 Sep 2012 12:55:17 +0300,
+</I>&gt;<i> Sander Lepik &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">sander.lepik at eesti.ee</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 08.09.2012 19:49, Colin Guthrie kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So there exists two users (provided by default from the setup pkg)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> called &quot;halt&quot; and &quot;shutdown&quot;. These users just run the halt and shutdown
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> commands as their shell. This means su'ing or sudo'ing or setting a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> password and logging in as them, will shut the machine down.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This seems like a relic from many years ago and there is no need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> include such users in this day and age. Should we kill them off?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +1 on removing them. I didn't even know about them :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The same for me, didn't know they existed.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Julien
+</I>
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+Removing them is a really bad idea.  It violates fundamental security principles. 
+There is a reason processes are run with their user permissions.
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