[Mageia-dev] Deprecating pm-utils

Mon Oct 22 16:38:53 CEST 2012

'Twas brillig, and Olivier Blin at 18/10/12 21:06 did gyre and gimble:
+> Colin Guthrie <mageia at colin.guthr.ie> writes:
+> 
+>> 'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 17/10/12 23:49 did gyre and gimble:
+>>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:36:47AM +0200, Olivier Blin wrote:
+>>>> It does not seem to provide a replacement for pm-suspend-hybrid.
+>>>
+>>> That will likely be in a newer systemd once they figured out what to
+>>> call it.
+>>
+>> Yeah being discussed now. As this is now in-kernel as of 3.6, systemd
+>> will support this within a very short time frame.
+> 
+> Is it equivalent?
+> Can the kernel hibernate support write a compressed and encrypted image to swap?
+> Does it allow showing a splash for suspend progress?
+
+I'm not 100% sure on all the implementation specifics here so I won't
+pretend otherwise.
+
+I'd hope that as a blessed kernel implementation that it would be clever
+and sensible here, but who knows!
+
+>>>> And what about all the hooks that used to be run by pm-utils?
+>>>> How will they be run now?
+>>
+>> Not 100% sure but as mentioned in another thread I think many of the
+>> quirks are likely outdated. Certainly graphical quirks that used to be
+>> present on my hardware have not been needed for many years since KMS
+>> came along. So this is likely an opportunity to tidy it up and get rid
+>> of the kruft.
+>>
+>> But overall some of the quirks are likely still needed, so I've started
+>> a discussion upstream with a view to gathering feedback from how other
+>> distros are planning to handle this.
+> 
+> That's not only about video quirks.
+
+Yeah, so the video quirks should be mostly useless now.
+
+I spoke to some Arch and Fedora folks and they've all had very few
+issues with the switch in this regard.
+
+See reply to my upstream question here:
+http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.systemd.devel/6937
+
+> This one is required to forbid messing with the suspend image in swap by
+> rebooting in another kernel:
+> /usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/01bootloader
+
+I'm not sure of this one specifically - will try and clarify.
+
+> There may be some other useful ones, notifying apps about resume, like:
+> /usr/lib64/pm-utils/sleep.d/95packagekit
+
+
+Yeah those kind of ones should just be migrated I think.
+
+Col
+
+
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