[Mageia-dev] Problem with Totem packages?

Wed Nov 21 16:26:13 CET 2012

On Mi, 2012-11-21 at 15:50 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+> 2012/11/21 Olav Vitters <olav at vitters.nl>:
+> > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 02:32:32PM +0100, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
+> >> Le mercredi 21 novembre 2012 13:29:26, Olav Vitters a écrit :
+> >> > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 02:11:40AM +0100, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
+> >> > > If we want a full usable distro out the box, VLC must be the default
+> >> > > choice for all videos and then Totem could be removed.
+> >> >
+> >> > Which desktop are you using? VLC is IMO terrible, but I don't see why
+> >> > application defaults should be the same across desktops. Totem under
+> >> > anything other than GNOME: who cares? Maybe for XFCE VLC is a better fit
+> >> > or something.
+> >>
+> >> VLC works with any destop and any OS.
+> >> Most of people coming from Windows already use VLC.
+> >> LibreOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird and VLC are the most universal applications.
+> >> They allow easy migrations from Microsoft.
+> >> However, I prefer Konqueror and kmail in a KDE environment.
+> >
+> > You really like VLC :)
+> >
+> > If there is no KDE mediaplayer, then maybe file a bug. Totem in KDE is
+> > not the best match.
+> 
+> Neither is dragon player nor is totem a good thing in Gnome.
+> 
+> Both application suffer from the same cause: as soon as we enter the
+> video section we also become victims of the free/non-free/tainted
+> issue. Result: totem as well as dragon player as provided by the free
+> DVD are not able to play any kind of video, unless you install certain
+> plugins. Now the direct issue is, how both applications deal with
+> this. None of both is able to list all necessary plugins to play the
+> wanted video - it's always the dance "a plugin is missing!" - "Which
+> plugin?" then a forum helper tells you about one plugin, you install
+> it, restart totem and - Bang! - it kills you with another "A plugin is
+> missing!". Do that 3 times and maybe it works for this one video,
+> coming back with the next video format. Same with dragon player.
+> 
+> It's an upstream issue all right, but why is it not possible to
+> include a function which lists ALL needed plugins, so you can install
+> all of them? Or even better, a meta-package for those who want it all,
+> which installs all available plugins for video play? I understand the
+> reasons why they can not be installed automatically, but it would be a
+> great step forward if all needed plugins can be installed in ONE step.
+> 
+> Apart from that and not judging by look&feel, vlc really is the best
+> when it comes to playing media.
+> 
+
+I second that last comment!
+
+Cheers,
+R.Fox
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