[Mageia-dev] Are you sure? (no confirmation before proceeding to selected packages installation)

Fri May 4 20:24:51 CEST 2012

On 2012/05/04 16:04 (GMT+0100) Colin Guthrie composed:
+
+> 'Twas brillig, and Felix Miata at 04/05/12 15:19 did gyre and gimble:
+
+>>  Mageia's installer has the same problem that bothers me in Mandriva. The
+>>  type install screen with KDE vs Gnome vs custom has no intermediate step
+>>  prior to the start of selected packages installation. Does this bother
+>>  no one else?
+
+> While a moot point for mga2 as others have said, I'd prefer not to have
+> an extra confirmation here. "Extra Clicks" are things UI people try to
+> reduce and for good reason. You don't want people being "click happy"
+> and ignore anything that is said to them (i.e. the privilege escalation
+> dialogue in Windows Vista).
+
+No doubt it is good to avoid unnecessary clicking, which implies unnecessary 
+decisions to be presented. The problem is deciding on what is necessary or 
+desirable....
+
+> I do accept that more clarity is maybe needed so if you pick one of the
+> predefined sets (Gnome or KDE) perhaps the button should say "Start
+> Installation" rather than "Next"? When you select "Custom" it should
+> instead read "Customise". That requires no extra clicks or confirmations
+> but should increase clarity to a level you'll be happy with.
+
+Of all the thread responses I've seen to this point, IMO the above probably 
+answers my OP the best, and is a good place from which to extend discussion.
+
+For one thing, there is no apparent option to not have a "workstation desktop 
+profile", one that at least initially does not include X. Even after clicking 
+on each of the three images, it's not apparent to me what "next" implies, 
+certainly not immediately begin downloading and installing rpms without any 
+mention that all preparatory steps have reached completion if "custom" has 
+not been selected. Note here that the pointer at left is still on 
+"partitioning". Maybe there should be some other "preparation" step to reach 
+in that list before the pointer moves to "installation". Right now, and as it 
+has been for quite some time, without first opening "help", the logic just 
+seems broken, missing step(s).
+
+Maybe just a few more words above, and altering the button language according 
+to the highlighted selection would be sufficient:
+
+Gnome or KDE -> begin installing packages
+Custom -> customize packages selection
+
+>>  2-There are no formatting options offered for /. Since I virtually
+>>  always install to a multiboot system, I require maximum
+>>  cross-installation compatibility. I can't have inode sizes, UUIDs and
+>>  volume labels changed willy nilly without having to go back and
+>>  reconfigure every other installation to conform to needless changes made
+>>  by a new installation. Format step really ought to offer selectable
+>>  format options so that an existing UUID, LABEL and/or Inode size could
+>>  be preserved and yet the / target really be empty.
+
+> This seems a very different point to the topic/subject of your mail. I
+> suggest you wait until mga2 is out and then submit your wish bugs.
+
+Point 2 was mostly for context. I've not yet investigated whether anything 
+similar has ever been filed in Mandriva or Mageia bug trackers.
+-- 
+"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
+words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
+
+  Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
+
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