[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

Mon Mar 12 21:27:25 CET 2012

Op maandag 12 maart 2012 10:56:57 schreef Michael Scherer:
+> Le lundi 12 mars 2012 à 08:29 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a écrit :
+> > to get back on topic: perhaps it's not unreasonable to allow a timelimit
+> > exception, like for instance 3 or 4 days where "i forgot it was freeze or
+> > didn't make it in time AND it's not likely to mess everything up" kind of
+> > reason...
+> 
+> That was already discussed when we discussed the release cycle. And
+> basically, that would just "let's reduce the freeze by 3/4 days in a
+> more inefficient way". You just move the bickering at the 3/4 days limit
+> ( "but it could have bene if I had submitted yesterday" ) instead of the
+> beggining of the freeze, and you take time to the people who are
+> submitting, since they get message, have to warn packager about "it
+> doesn't work" ( as it happened several time last freeze period ).
+[...]
+> So next time, maybe we should have a pure good faith based system,
+[...]
+> - everybody can do as he see fit
+
+I'll take this suggestion as a cynic suggestions and ignore it for now
+
+[...]
+> Patch welcome, but frankly, I think there is a point where the duty of
+> being informed must be on the packagers. It is rather depressing to
+> realize that people do not read the announce you send ( and what is more
+> depressing is the number of those that don't once you start to dig out
+> ).
+> 
+> If some people missed the announce, maybe we should ask them "where do
+> you read information about the project and where don't you read", so we
+> can identify the communication channel that should be used and those
+> that shouldn't, as i am not sure that hammering more is the solution.
+
+I do understand both your pov, and i do remember that discussion.
+
+IMHO: good strict policies are good, and exceptions are exceptions.
+
+but we should also try to prevent irritation if it's possible... we're short 
+on contributors and I don't like to decrease motivation... I guess that makes 
+me more lax than others.
+