[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic

Mon Mar 12 08:29:06 CET 2012

Op maandag 12 maart 2012 07:53:38 schreef David W. Hodgins:
+[...]
+> My understanding was that Magea 1 supported updating from Mandriva
+> 2010.2 + Contrib + PLF-Free.
+> 
+> There were several updates submitted to qa a few days ago, that are
+> only available in backports in Mdv 2010.2.
+[...]
+
+IMHO backports could be "supported" under Mageia backports, not in regular 
+media.
+
+Keeping in mind our limited resources, nonetheless, several of these bugs 
+which seemed to require workaround upon workaround, should get fixed sooner 
+rather than later, because it seems to be getting more complicated or more 
+discussed (and in generally too much resources being spent on it)
+
+i'm thinking of:
+ - backports
+ - noarch linking
+ - bug 2317
+ - livemedia
+ - or in general what we promise ( or rather to be careful what and how we 
+promise):
+
+if we say: "there are no livemedia yet, but we're working on it to get it in 
+the next few weeks" ... some people become angry, but you can also say:
+"There's a major bug preventing us from making livemedia, but we're working on 
+them" and possibly even updating it when it becomes clear it'll be for the 
+next release into "This beta release doesn't have any livemedia, we're hoping 
+to have the next beta release containing livemedia"
+
+Similar with backports: it's been promised this time without timelimit, but 
+people seem to be convinced it'll never make it. 3rd party repositories 
+popping up etc... It does not make us look good. and I'm getting to the point 
+where the resources spent on discussing backports seem to be larger than the 
+eventual losses in resources that would have been due to backports being open. 
+But now of all times, backports shouldn't open, rather in the first week after 
+release of mga2 would be a nice timing.
+
+to get back on topic: perhaps it's not unreasonable to allow a timelimit 
+exception, like for instance 3 or 4 days where "i forgot it was freeze or 
+didn't make it in time AND it's not likely to mess everything up" kind of 
+reason...
+
+But i think the point is now becoming moot if temporary freeze of Beta2 is in 
+effect... (not sure if it is, but i think i saw something regarding it)
+
+(about communication: maybe it's more prudent to have a messagebox above 
+http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/ telling us about various freezes and upcoming 
+soon freezes, even though as a packager it's my task to read meeting logs and 
+keeping myself up2date)
+