[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree

Thu Mar 8 15:18:07 CET 2012

08.03.2012 16:00, Kamil Rytarowski kirjutas:
+> On 08.03.2012 13:20, Sander Lepik wrote:
+>> Skype is pretty popular nowdays. 64-bit systems are pretty popular 
+>> too, you know. Yes, we had conflict with policy. But in this case i 
+>> think the policy is the one that must be changed.
+> Do you want to merge 32-bit and 64-bit software for nonfree and tainted?
+No, i don't.
+>> For exeptions like Skype. 
+> Why?
+Because this can't be done any other way.
+>> Or we need to add Nonfree 32 for 64-bit systems which makes a lot 
+>> less sense to me.
+> If we add core 32-bit, then why not nonfree 32-bit? Why to bloat our 
+> servers with pseudo 64-bit packages?
+Bloat? Noarch packages should be hardlinked AFAIK.
+>> Or you will start explaining to users again, why we don't have Skype 
+>> in our distro :(
+> 1. Skype isn't in our distro, just a dummy package.
+User has no idea what it is, (s)he either can find it in rpmdrake or not.
+> 2. Moving into the right place = not shipping at all?
+For 64-bit users it is not shipping at all.
+> 3. Tagging Skype as noarch is a falsehood. What about the coming ARM? 
+> What about other 32-bit only software?
+Lets deal with ARM problems when ARM is supported. For that time we 
+might have 64-bit Skype.
+>>
+>> It worked w/o any problems on 64-bit systems. Now we are back in 
+>> square one.
+> Every 32-bit software should work without any problems with 64-bit 
+> systems.. this is not a real argument.
+Yes, but 32-bit nonfree packages are not available to 64-bit users.
+
+I was quite sure that Mageia would keep the usability bit that Mandriva 
+had. But with our current direction Gentoo is soon easier to use for 
+non-developer/sysadmin user.
+
+--
+Sander
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