[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel

Thu Mar 8 06:11:01 CET 2012

On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Colin Guthrie <mageia at colin.guthr.ie>wrote:
+
+> 'Twas brillig, and Kamil Rytarowski at 02/03/12 19:43 did gyre and gimble:
+> > On 02.03.2012 19:55, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+> >> 02.03.2012 20:49, Kamil Rytarowski skrev:
+> >>> Hello!
+> >>>
+> >>> Is possible to ship qt3-devel with Mageia? Half of the the Polish
+> >>> community is demanding it, and because of lack of qt3-devel people
+> can't
+> >>> switch from other Well Known Distros to Mageia.
+> >>>
+> >> NO.
+> >>
+> >> As stated a million times before...
+> >>
+> >> qt3 is obsolete
+> >>
+> >> The only reason we have some qt3 runtime support is because of LSB
+> > Sad..
+> >>
+> >> Any stuff needed should be ported to qt4.
+> > Actually this is not true. One of our Mageia users (who introduced
+> > Mageia on a dozen of machines) can't switch the next dozen because of
+> > lacking Rivendell Radio Broadcasting software (
+> > http://www.rivendellaudio.org/index.shtml ), the other can't use his
+> > favourite qt3 apps, and a few others (including RH employee) are forced
+> > to use Fedora or KDE4.
+> >
+> > If the "obsolete" part is the only reason, then it's not too strong..
+> > the package is maintained and there is *upstream*.
+> >
+> > As of the 3.5.13 release the Trinity project has taken over maintenance
+> > of Qt3.
+> >
+> >     This means we are the new "upstream" location for up-to-date Qt3
+> > source code.
+> >     Since there have been no updates or stable releases from
+> > Nokia/Trolltech in many years and there are literally hundreds patches
+> > floating around, there was a significant need for a central location.
+> >     By maintaining Qt3 it will allow us to continue to improve Qt3
+> > outside the scope of Trinity. It will also provide a central location
+> > for Linux distributions to build packages from, and contributers to
+> > submit code to.
+> >     For obvious reasons any Qt3 version released by this project is
+> > licensed under the GPL only; holders of Trolltech Qt licenses may not
+> > use these versions in their proprietary projects.
+> >
+> >
+> http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13#Qt3
+> >
+> >
+> > Trinity is currently packaged for Mandriva, OpenSUSE and available for
+> > the main distros.
+>
+> I am thoroughly unimpressed with this trinity stuff. Open Source
+> software gives people freedoms and that's good, but it doesn't stop them
+> making bad decisions.
+>
+> Times move on. Why take a legacy bit of software and keep on developing
+> it? If they *really* cared so much for the KDE3 interface they would
+> port it to qt4 or even qt5, not limp on with outdated base layers.
+>
+
+Funny you say that. I believe they tried with a pkg called qtinterface.
+Don't quote me, but the gist of it was that qt4 has performance issues in
+many areas.
+
+It's all POV... I wouldn't call kde4 the panacea of DEs either... so in a
+sense I agree with you in that it doesn't stop a group of ppl from making a
+long set of bad decisions....
+
+>
+>
+> Col
+>
+>
+>
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+>
+> Colin Guthrie
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