From 1be510f9529cb082f802408b472a77d074b394c0 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 13:46:12 +0000 Subject: Add zarb MLs html archives --- zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2012-March/012744.html | 111 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 111 insertions(+) create mode 100644 zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2012-March/012744.html (limited to 'zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2012-March/012744.html') diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2012-March/012744.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2012-March/012744.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..bfecd1720 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2012-March/012744.html @@ -0,0 +1,111 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Deprecating%20startx&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj7MD9-CvTQGLWU-zgpjLza6kMC3LwJ0B7bpGRY4EDdmEQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="012743.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="012747.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Deprecating%20startx&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj7MD9-CvTQGLWU-zgpjLza6kMC3LwJ0B7bpGRY4EDdmEQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Mar 7 14:51:35 CET 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="012743.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="012747.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#12744">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#12744">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#12744">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#12744">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2012/3/7 Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>>: +><i> 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 07/03/12 12:02 did gyre and gimble: +</I>>><i> 2012/3/7 Colin Guthrie <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>>: +</I>>>><i> 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 07/03/12 10:13 did gyre and gimble: +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Different from Guillaume I do care about the impact for the user. +</I>>>>><i> There are many out there who are used to startx and also docs and +</I>>>>><i> howtos which use it. Therefore we will need an explanation for +</I>>>>><i> switching off startx.  An explanation to be used in forums, which is a +</I>>>>><i> bit more than just a link to a bug report. In other words: to be +</I>>>>><i> understood by non-techie users. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> To answer Guillaume's question, I wasn't personally planning on removing +</I>>>><i> it fully. Just documenting that it is broken and that users should not +</I>>>><i> use this as a mechanism for starting X. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I would propose just putting in "echo 'startx is deprecated. Here is +</I>>>><i> why.....   Press any key to continue anyway.' >&2; read -n 1" in the +</I>>>><i> startx script such that users using it will be warned. Does this seem +</I>>>><i> sensible? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> It is sensible and enough for the situation at hand (when the user +</I>>><i> actually punches in "startx" and the command does not work as +</I>>><i> expected). In principle on the same level of information like "file +</I>>><i> not found". That's all which is needed from the technical side. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> People more close to the users will have to think of an explanation +</I>>><i> without tech-talk, understandable for the user who comes to the forum +</I>>><i> complaining that the command he had been using for many years (or +</I>>><i> which is written in a documentation) does not work. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For the avoidance of doubt, I would expect that hitting return would +</I>><i> still end up starting X, just that the afore mentioned (and dutifully +</I>><i> explained to the user) problems with ACLs etc. will be present. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'll be able to write some text here that is concise, so I'll do this +</I>><i> shortly. +</I> +Great! + +Now I'll have to teach this waltzing greybeard in the mirror some new +moves .... :) + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="012743.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="012747.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#12744">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#12744">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#12744">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#12744">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> -- cgit v1.2.1