[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

Wed Mar 7 00:11:06 CET 2012

'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 20:29 did gyre and gimble:
+> Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 21:19:49 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+>> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 20:09 did gyre and gimble:
+>>> Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 20:52:02 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+>>>> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 19:41 did gyre and gimble:
+>>>>> Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 14:28:38 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+>>>>> [...]
+>>>>>
+>>>>>> Now I'm not sure on the logic inside the Xserver that is used to
+>>>>>> search for a free getty. it maybe starts from the current one and
+>>>>>> counts up. If so, this logic should (IMO) be changed to start
+>>>>>> searching from 1 that way it would relatively consistently start on
+>>>>>> vt1 even when restarted from tty2.
+>>>>>>
+>>>>>> Col
+>>>>>
+>>>>> have you been successfull with 2 user sessions?
+>>>>
+>>>> As in logging out and back in again or with fast user switching?
+>>>>
+>>>> The former has worked quite happily for me. Not tested the latter but I
+>>>> expect there to be some quirks.
+>>>>
+>>>> Col
+>>>
+>>> err, no, i mean 2 X sessions.
+>>>
+>>> often i have one KDE session running on vt8 and one for my wife on vt9
+>>> and sometimes on for my daughter at vt10...
+>>
+>> OK, so fast user switching then.
+>>
+>>> the question is, with the prefdm only conflicting with the first getty,
+>>> will several X sessions be possible?
+>>
+>> Yeah. They should, in theory at least, start on vt2 and vt3, tho' this
+>> may depend on the desktop itself. With GDM+Gnome the second session
+>> starts on tty2, the third on tty3 etc.
+>>
+>> There is a caveat however. If you have switched to tty2 before picking
+>> the "Login as another user" option, then autovt will have kicked in and
+>> started a getty there. It then "hogs" tty2 and prevents X from using it.
+>>
+>> Of course if I manage to get my idea working, switching to tty2 when in
+>> graphical.target will actually give you a graphical login prompt anyway,
+>> so pretty much the same thing as picking the "Login as another user"
+>> option from within the first graphical session.
+>>
+>> Col
+> 
+> ic...
+> 
+> i do hope we get some kind of vt that will always be tty? i do sometimes 
+> require that, when getting too much load and OOM'ing...
+
+Yeah I agree here. That's why I originally suggested keeping some TTY
+for text use (tho' I do still think the primary focus on a graphical
+setup should be for graphical login hence why tty1-8 (ish) should be IMO
+reserved for graphical logins, with text only on 9+ or similar. I think
+that's a good compromise, even if it's not what the greybeards expect (I
+do still consider myself to be a greybeard in some ways too here! I hope
+no one takes this as derogatory :D)
+
+> also, it'd be nice to have as possibility (in the dm) to start a tty session 
+> instead of a graphical session (as an alternative)
+
+While I don't necessarily disagree with this, I think it should be very
+much de-emphasised. Not obvious for novice users, but something power
+users could find.
+
+Take care
+
+Col
+
+
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