[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console

Tue Mar 6 18:57:56 CET 2012

2012/3/6 Colin Guthrie <mageia at colin.guthr.ie>:
+> 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 06/03/12 16:56 did gyre and gimble:
+>> 2012/3/6 Frank Griffin <ftg at roadrunner.com>:
+>>> On 03/06/2012 11:22 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+>>>>
+>>>> If you want to address the novice user, what do you think makes support in
+>>>> case of a failing x server easier for the helper AND the novice user, a
+>>>> black screen, a screen without a prompt but with a hanging list of messages
+>>>> instead - or a login prompt from where he can be directed to a solution (or
+>>>> given instructions to provide more information)?
+>>>
+>>>
+>>> Probably a better solution, if you know that X is supposed to come up but
+>>> isn't, is to automatically log him in as some new ID whose shell is a script
+>>> something like the rescue console script.  The first thing it does is su him
+>>> to prompt for the root password, and then presents a character-based dialog
+>>> explaining his options, offering to run XFdrake, maybe running rpm/urpmi to
+>>> see if all needed packages are installed, and giving him to option to exit
+>>> to a real shell if he wants.
+>>
+>> Yes, that would be the next step on the road to user-friendly desaster
+>> management.
+>
+> Well, that's my whole point!!!
+>
+>> As long as we do not have this a login prompt is better than nothing.
+>
+> So I should spend my time doing this, only to undo it later for a
+> different solution?
+>
+> I'm sorry, but I'm not willing to waste time on this until it's decided
+> that this is the all we're going to do and what we'll ship.
+>
+> As far as things stand I see it as tangential to what I'd like to
+> achieve so I'd rather spend what limited time I have working on that
+> than something that could ultimately be thrown away later.
+
+Ah, ok, I understand your point now.
+The big question is: What is the time span we are talking about here?
+A week, month? Would you think you can achieve this better solution
+until Mageia 2 RC? If so, I am totally ok with that. If you think it
+will take longer than that, I do not think we can let this issue leave
+hanging in the air when we approach Mageia 2 final, wasted work or
+not.
+
+-- 
+wobo
+