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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+    <I>Tue Mar  6 14:21:48 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>2012/3/6 Barry Jackson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">zen25000 at zen.co.uk</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On 06/03/12 12:46, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/6 Olivier Thauvin&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Colin Guthrie (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 09:24 did gyre and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just try to install a cauldron to setup a test IPv6 firewall/router.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To setup server I do a minimum install:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - /boot on its own partition
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - /var /tmp and swap on lvm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - select no packages categories but yes install doc
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - no post configuration, so no X11 (hey it's a server)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> At boot the system started but stop to &quot;starting display manager&quot; (??)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and I were unable to reach any text terminal.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No text terminal at all? Not on tty2 or 3?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Indeed, alt + F2 show the login prompt. But before I pressed alt + F2 ps
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> was not showing any &quot;*getty&quot; program, a bit confusing, especially since
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> there is nothing on first console.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you try and start dm (prefdm.service) then you will NOT get a tty1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> getty (prefdm.service conflicts with <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at tty1.service</A>), but all other
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tty's should be fine (handled by <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">autovt at .service</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe, but I never asked to have prefdm and in fact I don't want X
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> terminal.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> All sys admin expect to have a tty on first console and just having
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;starting dm service&quot; whereas I know it cannot start is really
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> confusing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cannot prefdm/X11/whatever be started on 7nd console like during the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> years 90th ? :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ah, back at that one again. We had a lengthy and lively debate about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this not so long ago where exactly this scenario came up. Don't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> remember whether it was on this list or the -discuss list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is even more confusing currently is that switching to tty2, logging in
+</I>&gt;<i> as root and running 'systemctl restart prefdm.service' restarts the dm back
+</I>&gt;<i> on tty7 anyway :/
+</I>
+Yep, and I have one Cauldron installation working nicely but using
+Ctrl+Alt+F1 inside the X session brings me to the system start
+messages, while this should do nothing because X should reside on
+tty1. :)
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