[Mageia-dev] Remove upgrade functionnality in installer

Mon Jun 25 00:36:19 CEST 2012

Anne nicolas a écrit :
+> 2012/6/24 David Walser<luigiwalser at yahoo.com>:
+>    
+>> Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
+>>      
+>>> On Saturday 23 June 2012 15:21, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+>>>        
+>>>> The issue with the upgrade function at
+>>>> the end of the installer is: "it is not working properly even if a
+>>>> functioning network is available".
+>>>>          
+>>> In all the years I have been running Mandrake, Mandriva and now Mageia, the upgrade packages function in the installer has not worked once
+>>>        
+>> for me, that I can remember. So I always skip it.
+>>      
+>>> I believe many others do the same.
+>>>        
+>> Is that what the "feature request" is talking about?  If so, it's totally not clear.  It sounded to me like it was talking about the ability
+>> for the installer to upgrade an existing system.  If it's just talking about that "install updates" thing at the end of the installation,
+>> that's never worked for me either in the few times I've tried it.  It's also pretty unnecessary for me since I usually install from HDD or net,
+>> which uses updates in the first place.
+>>      
+> Indeed  I'm not speaking about updating packages at the end of the
+> installation but using a DVD to upgrade an already installed system
+>    
+
+But using a DVD to upgrade an already installed system is a good way to 
+get around the fact that many packages, including nonfree firmware, are 
+missing from the DVD.
+If one does a clean install, one has to try to find a lot of missing 
+packages, because they are no longer installed.  This impacts 
+considerably the usability of the system.  (Considering what the user 
+had installed.)
+All one has to do after the upgrade install, is reboot and do a normal 
+upgrade with rpmdrake (selecting "all updates" and "all packages"), and 
+almost everything works well.
+(For me upgrade to mga1 worked perfectly.  The last 2 upgrades with mdv 
+had some problems, due to other factors.  A clean install has always 
+caused me a lot of problems.)
+With a clean install, it can be problematic to find all the missing 
+packages, as well as missing firmware.
+
+Note that I don't use mgaapplet after an upgrade install, since it 
+doesn't give me all the information I want, to help me decide if I 
+should drop some packages that were installed.
+It may be that using mgaapplet after an upgrade install is the weak link 
+in the chain.
+And certainly urpmi is not a convenient tool at this point.  (Although I 
+use it a lot at other times.)
+
+Note also that with upgrade install, even firmware that is missing from 
+the release (and not only the DVD) remains installed.  So there are 
+cases where an upgrade install necessarily produces a better functioning 
+system.
+
+So in sum, in my view, removing upgrade install for DVDs would be an 
+important regression.
+But maybe we should suggest rebooting and using rpmdrake after such an 
+install.
+
+Regards :)
+
+-- 
+André
+
+