[Mageia-dev] bug 2317 revisited: --update option should behave like --search-media

Thu Jun 21 17:36:58 CEST 2012

On 21 June 2012 17:27, AL13N <alien at rmail.be> wrote:
+>> You claim that it's not  supported.
+>> But cherry picking one backport is usually what people do.
+>>
+>> Denying the reality won't help you make progress...
+>
+> well, this time we agreed to have supported backports.
+>
+> it is true that almost all devs are cherry-picking backports, but are real
+> users going to do that? i doubt it, but we don't have any data about this
+> in any case.
+
+End users do not know about urpmi.
+They knows about mgaupdate which shows them updates and about
+rpmdrake which shows everything.
+Thy _ONLY_ way for them to get a backport package installed is to
+manually select one.
+Period.
+
+> the reality is that if you want supported backports, there's literally no
+> way of testing if all combinations of cherrypicking will work or not.
+> thus, there is no other way solution than to support only having backports
+> or not.
+
+That's bogus.
+The truth is and always has been: if you install a backport package, it's
+unsupported, it's at your own risks.
+Claiming we support backports would be a like: we won't retest all existing
+backported packages when pushing a new one.
+
+> but even if you're cherry picking backports, it's still not a problem. you
+> have the knowhow to cherry pick and thus also to select which ones you
+> want as dependencies for updates.
+
+You don't understand: cherry picking backports is the only way for end
+users to install backports
+
+> if everyone is cherry picking backports, there's no use to having
+> supported backports, and thus we should just have unsupported backports.
+> it'll make all of this alot easier.
+
+Indeed. As we always did.
+
+> nonetheless, this isn't only about backports, but also for testing and 3rd
+> party repos or custom repositories.
+
+We don't support those.
+
+> in the end, the best i can come up with is to trust all enabled
+> repositories. Since the user obviously trusts them.
+
+NACK. That's totally bogus.
+Enabling the backport media DOES NOT imply "I want to install every
+backports".
+You're twisting the reality and the existing experience in order to match
+your goals. That won't work...
+