[Mageia-dev] ANN: For the brave. systemd v185 in cauldron updates_testing

Tue Jun 19 10:07:46 CEST 2012

'Twas brillig, and JA Magallón at 18/06/12 22:47 did gyre and gimble:
+> On 06/18/2012 11:28 PM, JA Magallón wrote:
+>> Hi....
+>>
+>> Sorry for the delay, I've been busy with end-of-term festivals in
+>> my children' schools ;)...
+>>
+>>>>
+>>>>> - keyboard layout under Gnome got reset to English (from Spanish).
+>>>>> Changed manually under
+>>>>>    system settings and fine again.
+>>>>
+>>
+>> One addtional problem is that GDM starts with english keyboard which
+>> is a problem for passwords with non alpha-num chars... :).
+>>
+>>>> Interesting. Does this new setting survive a reboot? Does the new
+>>>> mapping work at the system level (i.e. is the layout respected in GDM)?
+>>
+>> Yep, the setting survives a reboot for the user that changed it, but
+>> as I said above it does not change GDM settings. I did not try to do it
+>> with system tools, just user preferences.
+>> And keymap is OK in virtual consoles.
+>>
+>>>>
+>>>> Do you have a /etc/vconsole.conf file?
+>>
+>> Nop, I have not. I think system settings were in /etc/sysconfig/keyboard.
+>>
+>>>
+>>> OK, so I don't really understand why it's broken. I think it's maybe a
+>>> regression in that X is no longer inheriting settings from the console,
+>>> but I think longer term this is a valid thing (maybe there will not be a
+>>> console to inherit from in the future?)
+>>>
+>>> So, it seems that systemd-localed will write an Xorg snippet into
+>>> /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-keyboard.conf when the keyboard is set. Thus
+>>> your setting of it via the Gnome System Settings will have written this
+>>> file (can you confirm it exists?) and it will remain there for the
+>>> remaining boots.
+>>
+>> This file does not exist in my box, I just used user prefs to change
+>> the map, not sytem ones.
+>>
+>>>
+>>> Longer term, we need to make sure the installer runs this daemon for
+>>> fresh installs. And perhaps we should run it on upgrade automatically
+>>> too to ensure it's written as needed.
+>>>
+>>
+>> I will try to write an /etc/vconsole.conf and see if it works.
+>> Perhaps the fix is just to write it from /etc/syscofig/keyboard...
+>>
+> 
+> This file did not work for GDM.
+
+Yup, I realise now that it's only good for the console. I think in the
+past we must have somehow inherited from the console but that's no
+longer working (I could be wrong on this one).
+
+> So i checked systemd-localed, it was not started and started it manually,
+> and then copied my settings to system in gnome settings tool.
+> That made the file in xorg.conf.d appear, and GDM was OK.
+
+You shouldn't actually need to start it manually. It should start
+on-demand (it's dbus activated). That worked here.
+
+Strangely, I wasn't able to write the file immediately It somehow
+detected my system settings as the same as my local settings and refused
+to write a file. I think perhaps that my "local" settings were a little
+bit broken tho' (years of upgrades I guess) and adding a layout,
+removing it and then copying did indeed write the xorg.conf.d snippet.
+
+> Perhaps udev/dbus do not talk to X server anymore about keyboard layout.
+
+Well I'm not sure at what point X will talk to udev or dbus about this?
+Maybe udev no longer carries locale information in it's db? Maybe it's
+simply due to X being linked against an old libudev at the moment (until
+this lands in the release repo)? That said I don't see any layout
+information in my udev database for my console on mga2 machines. So I'm
+not really sure how this stuff works to be honest.
+
+> My settiongs in xorg.conf were:
+> Section "InputDevice"
+>     Identifier "keyboard"
+>     Driver "evdev"
+> #    Option "XkbLayout" "es"
+> #    Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
+> #    Option "XkbOptions" ""
+> EndSection
+
+Well these options are commented out so won't have any effect. Most of
+the time xorg.conf isn't even needed any more, hence the desire to use
+the xorg.conf.d folder instead.
+
+
+> File generated by localed is:
+> 
+> # Read and parsed by systemd-localed. It's probably wise not to edit
+> this file
+> # manually too freely.
+> Section "InputClass"
+>         Identifier "system-keyboard"
+>         MatchIsKeyboard "on"
+>         Option "XkbLayout" "es"
+> EndSection
+> 
+
+Yup that seems correct.
+
+Likely we'll need to update things accordingly to deal with this, but on
+the whole I'm sure we'll get it working smoothly :)
+
+Cheers
+
+Col
+
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+Colin Guthrie
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