[Mageia-dev] gstreamer0.10-faac - package request

Mon Jun 18 12:03:15 CEST 2012

'Twas brillig, and Simple w at 18/06/12 10:52 did gyre and gimble:
+> 2012/6/17 Simple w <simplew8 at gmail.com>:
+>> 2012/6/17 Rémi Verschelde <remi at verschelde.fr>:
+>>> 2012/6/17 Simple w <simplew8 at gmail.com>:
+>>>> Hi,
+>>>>
+>>>> I have been running arist-gtk to encode video and almost all presets
+>>>> fail because it needs gstreamer-faac, please see the output:
+>>>>
+>>>> ]$ arista-gtk
+>>>>
+>>>> ** (process:3757): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype
+>>>> 'GMountMountFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags'
+>>>>
+>>>> ** (process:3757): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype
+>>>> 'GDriveStartFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags'
+>>>>
+>>>> ** (process:3757): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype
+>>>> 'GSocketMsgFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags'
+>>>> ** Message: pygobject_register_sinkfunc is deprecated (GstObject)
+>>>> arista.presets [435]: INFO Attempting to install elements: faac
+>>>> ** Message: PackageKit: xid = 0
+>>>> ** Message: PackageKit: Codec nice name: Elemento "faac" do GStreamer
+>>>> ** Message: PackageKit: structure: gstreamer0.10(element-faac)()(64bit)
+>>>> ** Message: PackageKit: Did not install codec: Message did not receive
+>>>> a reply (timeout by message bus)
+>>>> arista.presets [444]: ERROR Unable to install required elements!
+>>>>
+>>>> Found only 1 preset working so far in arista, seams it uses
+>>>> gstreamer-faac in almost all presets...
+>>>
+>>> Did you install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad ?
+>>
+>> Yes
+> 
+> Packages like:
+> 
+> faac
+> amrwb
+> 
+> couldnt exist in non-free repository?
+> 
+> I see that these packages for example in Fedora they exist in Rpm
+> Fusion http://rpmfusion.org/
+> Seams to be a repository for packages with license "issues".
+> 
+> Can this be reviewed in Mageia?
+> Currently users are limited to handle video codifications and they
+> dont have any option to install faac and amrwb.
+
+As mentioned in the previous email, this particular bit of software has
+both license issues *and* patent issues in some countries.
+
+It's the combination of these two things that make things awkward for us
+as we have:
+ non-free (for software with license issues)
+and
+ tainted (for software with patent issues).
+
+To ship this package we would need yet another repository:
+ non-free+tainted
+
+And this is the general dilemma. Too many media sources are confusing to
+users. But clean separation is important for users who live in certain
+jurisdictions (and also potentially for mirror servers in certain
+jurisdictions who may not be able to carry tainted, but can carry non-free)
+
+Hope that explains the issue. It would be nice to solve it, but I'm not
+sure how without another media than that's a pain to support cleanly.
+
+Col
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+http://colin.guthr.ie/
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