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+    <B>blind Pete</B> 
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+    <I>Sat Jun  9 09:08:16 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Samuel Verschelde wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 8 juin 2012 20:20:54, David W. Hodgins a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:22:41 -0400, Samuel Verschelde
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I think you missed my point. If Mageia 1 &quot;backports&quot; has higher
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; versions than Mageia 2 &quot;release&quot; (not backports), upgrade can fail
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; because currently our tools do not take backports from the target
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; release (mageia 2) into account when upgrading a distro.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In the upgrade from Mandriva 2010.2 to Mageia 1, it was made clear, that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> upgrading from a system with 2010.2 Backports was not supported.  It may
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> work, but was not recommended.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think we should keep the same policy for the upgrade from Mageia 1 to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I.E.  Don't use backports if you are planning on later doing an upgrade,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rather then a clean install.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That way, Mageia 1 users who want firefox 13 can get it, without us
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> having to replace the Mageia 2 iso images with an upgraded installer,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that will keep backports enabled for 2, if it was enabled for 1.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Again, this is not the policy we adopted. When we defined the backports
+</I>&gt;<i> policy (together, although it seems most people are just discovering it
+</I>&gt;<i> now) we said that we didn't want to have backports that don't work, break
+</I>&gt;<i> a system, or prevent upgrade.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> However, I think that for DVD upgrade without internet access this is a
+</I>&gt;<i> sensible option. But the upgrader should detect the situation itself, not
+</I>&gt;<i> hope that the user will read somewhere in the release notes that it's not
+</I>&gt;<i> supported.
+</I>
+No, just include Cauldron's backport repositories (disabled by default) 
+inside the DVD iso.  Upgrade to the release version, if possible.  
+If that is not possible, upgrade to the version in backports.  
+
+&gt;<i> And there should be a way for those who have internet access to upgrade
+</I>&gt;<i> online *with* backports too.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>
+-- 
+blind Pete
+Sig goes here...  
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