[Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 specifications

Wed Jun 6 01:04:05 CEST 2012

On 06/05/2012 11:41 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
+> On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 10:44:31PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+>> Le 05/06/2012 16:20, Olav Vitters a écrit :
+>>> Also, with latest NetworkManager, it seems you can do pretty advanced
+>>> network configurations (lacks UI). The UI is planned for GNOME 3.6.
+>>> However, seems that loads of Mageia users have issues with
+>>> NetworkManager, so not sure what to do. Perhaps safer to wait a year and
+>>> hope that other distributions solve the bugs?
+>> Approximatively 50% of those problems come from the coexistence with
+>> drakxtools and sysinit, conflicting for the control of the
+>> interface, rather than actual problems in NM code. Waiting for them
+>> to magically disapear won't help much...
+>
+> Ah ok, but shouldn't that all be fixed now that the patch is back to
+> make NetworkManager properly ignore stuff that it should ignore?
+>
+
+I tink it is _lot_ easier even for drakxtools to write a file into
+/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections that to mess with ifcfg-* files.
+
+And NM is the only sane way to have, in my case, 4 or 5 WiFi configurations
+for the same interface and let it pick the right one depending on my
+location. It is just marvelous, and without any ifcfg-* file rewriting
+on the fly.
+
+And I suppose it can also be done, but I never managed to do without NM:
+let my linux in the far corner of the house boot and connect to wifi
+without any user logged in...
+
+So in my case, a big +1 for NM and kill all sysvinit files for network.
+
+I acknowledge that I never tried to do bonding with NM, for example...
+
+> meaning: only look for USE_NM/NM_CONTROLLED (I forgot which), not demand
+> more than that.
+>
+>
+> But ideally it would be nice if there was only one way to setup a
+> network.. and for me that means NetworkManager :). But drakxtools was
+> more advanced IIRC, so first NetworkManager needs to get more advanced,
+> more documentation, etc.
+>
+> Cool possibilities with just NetworkManager:
+> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NMEnterpriseNetworking
+>
+> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677148:
+> (all one bugzilla.gnome.org, seem duplicates, but there is a bug per
+>   product, so bug for maybe gnome-control-center, gnome-shell, etc)
+>
+> 677144: network: make sure bridged devices are handled
+> 677145: network: make sure bridged devices are handled
+> 677146: network: make sure bonded devices are handled
+> 677147: network: make sure bonded devices are handled
+> 677148: network: make sure vlans are handled
+> 677149: network: make sure vlans are handled
+> 677150: network: make sure ipoib is handled
+> 677151: network: make sure ipoib is handled
+>
+> I had to lookup what ipoib (IP over infiniband) meant, article is here:
+> http://www.ietf.org/wg/concluded/ipoib.html
+>
+>
+> GNOME shell specific:
+> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=677142: multiple nics (NM can
+> handle it, GNOME shell not)
+>    677142: network: make sure multiple nics are handled ok
+>    677143: network: make sure multiple nics are handled ok
+>
+> Note: The support is in NetworkManager. The GNOME bugs are to ensure it
+> is shown/exposed in the UI properly. Not sure if available in stuff like
+> KNetworkManager, but NM is not specific to GNOME.
+>
+> All bugs above are really server like things. I thought drakxtools still
+> was better at setting up Wifi; and I think that is more important to get
+> right than vlan/bridging/etc.
+>
+
+
+-- 
+J.A. Magallon <jamagallon()ono!com>        \               Winter is coming...
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