[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [4436] german keyboard: default to variant with enabled deadkeys instead of "nodeadkeys variant" ( mga#3791)

Mon Jul 30 14:49:41 CEST 2012

Am 30.07.2012 14:41, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
+> 2012/7/30 Thierry Vignaud<thierry.vignaud at gmail.com>:
+>> On 28 June 2012 02:51, Thierry Vignaud<thierry.vignaud at gmail.com>  wrote:
+>>>>>> german keyboard: default to variant with enabled deadkeys instead
+>>>>>> of"nodeadkeys variant"  (mga#3791)
+>>>>>
+>>>>> Oups, why that?
+>>>>> As far as I'm concerned no deadkeys is the default for German users and
+>>>>> that's good!
+>>>>>
+>>>>> Any reasons for this change?
+>>>>
+>>>> Call it "Competitive analysis" if you want. Keyboards comes with those
+>>>> little keys that are meant to produce accented characters in
+>>>> combination with regular letters, and this how it works on Windows,
+>>>> the platform most users will migrate from, and also on Mac OS X.
+>>>>
+>>>> Regular users don't have any use of stand-alone-accent-characters. And
+>>>> even with deadkeys it is easy to produce the standalone accent by just
+>>>> pressing the key twice (so you can get backticks easily).
+>>>> If you're a programmer and are using a nodeadkeys variant for that
+>>>> reason, you're not the target population of a suggested default. (If
+>>>> you know what is meant with "deadkeys" and "nodeadkeys", you're not in
+>>>> target of that dialog, and have the knowledge to not accept the
+>>>> default, but choose the nodeadkeys variant that is listed right next
+>>>> to the regular variant).
+>>>>
+>>>> The variant with deadkeys is called "German" without any addition for
+>>>> a reason. If nodeadkeys were the expected/more common choice, then it
+>>>> would be "German (international)" or "German (deadkeys)", like it is
+>>>> the case for the US-variants.
+>>>
+>>> So Olivier, do you agree with that change or not?
+>
+> It may be logical but German users have been taught to use
+> "nodeadkeys" for ages. Changing this now just because of semantics
+> does not seem to be a wise move (I always use "German"). But OTOH it
+> is not such a big thing. It will cause the usual number of questions
+> in the forums ("MAG3 breaks my keyboard!") but this will vanish over
+> the years. :)
+>
+This must have slipped my mind...
+I concur with wobo. This change will cause such forums posts but that 
+will be solved soon after Mga3 release.
+The question is, how do other distros do it? A colleague just told me, 
+his Ubuntu chose the no dead key variant by default.
+What about Fedora and openSUSE or don't we care at all?
+
+As for myself, I will just change it back on my systems so it's no big deal.
+
+Oliver
+
+-- 
+Oliver Burger aka obgr_seneca
+
+Mageia contributor
+