[Mageia-dev] [ANN] unbloated installer stage1

Tue Jan 24 16:33:47 CET 2012

John Balcaen a écrit :
+> 2012/1/24 Olav Vitters<olav at vitters.nl>:
+>    
+>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 01:09:02PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+>>      
+>>> Total gain on boot.iso: -23Mb (57.5%) on x86_64 (less on i586)
+>>>        
+>> Yay, more space for GNOME! (my interest :P)
+>>      
+
+Nice work :)
+
+> :)
+> Currently we also need a way to fix our iso creation :
+> for example on Mageia DVD 1 there's 4703 packages available for a size
+> of 3.7 Giga while Alpha 3 is providing only 4208 packages for a size
+> of 4Gb ... so we're using more space for less packages.
+> For kde's part we've got already some bug reports reporting missing
+> packages that where only suggests before (yes misc  i agree that
+> suggests is not the right way to add stuff but since they are not
+> *required* to work a kde session there's no reason to add them as
+> requires)&  available in previous Mageia 1.
+> I can of course add them as requires on the task-kde package but i
+> think we should first start what we want to provides by default with
+> our task.
+> What should task-minimal requires ? just the desktop ? an irc client ?
+> a web client  (well here firefox is the default one) a mail client ?
+> etc etc
+> Enabling suggests on bcd configuration is certainly a no go because
+> we're already @ 4Go for dvd iso so part of the problem could probably
+> be fixed in the task- packages&  after we can probably still add some
+> packages on the configuration.
+>
+>    
+for task packages, I think a good presentation on installation would be 
+something like this :
+
+[]-+-- () all required packages
+    ()-internet
+    |  [] firefox - description
+    |  [] browser2 - desc
+    |  [] thunderbird - desc
+    |  [] email client2 - desc
+    |  [] iceape/seamonkey - desc
+    ()-office suites
+    |  [] libreoffice - desc
+    |  [] office suite2 - desc
+    []-other group 1 (can be all selected)
+    |  [] option1 - desc
+    |  [] option2 - desc
+    ()-other group 2 (selectable one at a time)
+       [] option1 - desc
+       [] option2 - desc
+     ...
+
+Notes:
+- each package not on the dvd would be noted as such.
+This should make it easier to deal with more limited space on the dvd.
+- () is to open to see more detail, but not a point of selection.
+- [] is a check box for selection, which includes the options to the 
+right/below.
+So clicking the top/left box would select everything.
+- packages already installed would be shown dim (if shown at all).
+- the optional packages would be "suggests".
+
+The idea is that any time a task package is selected, the same 
+presentation would appear, showing what is already installed, and that 
+deselecting an installed item would lead to its' uninstallation.
+
+Not an original idea, since some larger Ms-based apps (at least used to) 
+do this.
+Except that in Linux, packages are generally less self-contained and 
+more interdependant, so this schema would be more advantageous here.
+It would give users a lot easier control over what is installed.
+It could be applied to some non-task packages as well.
+
+One advantage of this is that we could have only one task-kde, one 
+task-gnome, etc.
+
+-- 
+André
+
+