[Mageia-dev] please stop doing "bugs" for updating magia 1

Thu Jan 12 10:05:34 CET 2012

On Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:05:53 Antoine Pitrou wrote:
+> On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 14:41:54 -0500
+> Juan Luis Baptiste <juancho at mageia.org>
+> 
+> wrote:
+> > As I said, when there's a bug report on mga, we start investigating
+> > the problem and go and look at upstream for a bug report there for
+> > *that* particular bug.
+> 
+> So let me repeat myself from two messages above (!):
+> 
+> “Just because someone doesn't file a bug against Mageia doesn't mean the
+> bug doesn't bother anybody, because many users don't report upstream
+> bugs to the distro's tracker.”
+
+Why not?
+
+IMHO, a user who experiences a bug has two effective paths they can follow to 
+get a bugfix:
+
+1)File a bug with the distribution, and have the distribution worry about 
+reporting or fixing the bug and providing an update
+
+2)File a bug upstream, when the bug is fixed uptream, file a bug with the 
+distributor, referencing the upstream bug 
+
+An approach that doens't include a bug filed with the distribution means the 
+user doesn't really seem interested in receiving an update from the 
+distribution.
+
+If you just want every new piece of software as soon as possible, you should 
+run Cauldron.
+
+If you believe every bugfix-only-release from every piece of software should 
+be pushed out by distributions, can you clarify:
+1)Why users who are not affected by some obscure bug (e.g. typo in a man page 
+they will never read) should be forced to download unnecessary packages (at 
+high cost in some cases)
+2)How you will identify all upstreams which have a good history of bugfix-only 
+releases, and how you will automate the selection of these packages to go to 
+updates, and how you will streamline this process through QA.
+
+Anyway, you seem to be of the assumption that all the contributors to the 
+distribution you are using have so much more time on their hands than you do, 
+while in actual fact I believe almost all contributors are *very* contstrained 
+on time. If you don't think it is worth your time to help out, why should we 
+waste time (which could be used to ensure the next release has all bugfixes) 
+on new bugfix releases we don't need?
+
+Regards,
+Buchan
+