[Mageia-dev] please stop doing "bugs" for updating magia 1

Thu Jan 12 09:45:29 CET 2012

On Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:22:23 Antoine Pitrou wrote:
+> On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:43:35 -0500
+> Juan Luis Baptiste <juancho at mageia.org>
+> 
+> wrote:
+> > > Sure, you cannot be save of regressions, but what makes you think you
+> > > are smarter than upstream? What makes you so sure that not the one
+> > > commit you add as a patch to your package is the one that causes the
+> > > regressions?
+> > 
+> > Because as I said earlier, we backport the "commit" that fixes that
+> > single issue, based on the info found on the bugzilla report of the
+> > upstream project.
+> 
+> But how do you choose which patches you want to backport from the
+> stream of bugfixes done by upstream?
+
+Speaking for myself, and using openldap as an example:
+1)I am active on the mailing lists (e.g. openldap-technical)
+2)I am subscribed to the bugs mailing list (openldap-its)
+3)I check commits in git for the OPENLDAP_REL_ENG_2_4 branch
+
+Typically, if I see 'crasher' in the commimt, I'll look at using that patch 
+for an update.
+
+> Should the packager monitor all
+> bug fixing activity? (sure (s)he *can*, but that's a lot of work)
+> 
+> Just because someone doesn't file a bug against Mageia doesn't mean the
+> bug doesn't bother anybody, because many users don't report upstream
+> bugs to the distro's tracker.
+> (also, other users don't bother reporting bugs at all :-))
+
+And this is the reason I would like to see backports, so I can:
+1)Provide bugfix and security updates with no regressions, in updates
+2)Provide latest upstream stable release in backports, so a user can 
+conveniently contribute (e.g. bug reports) upstream.
+
+But, note that pushing unwanted packages to 99% of our users is not a solution 
+either, we don't want to be Fedora, where every month you effectively have a 
+new distribution ...
+
+Regards,
+Buchan
+