[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-Private] Consolidation of the spelling tools in Mageia

Sun Jan 8 21:18:26 CET 2012

W dniu 08.01.2012 15:19, Luc Menut pisze:
+> Hello,
+Hello Luc, thank you for you mail.
+>
+> first, sorry to reply so late, and when you have started to update 
+> hunspell dictionaries packages.
+>
+> Le 21/12/2011 08:15, Kamil Rytarowski a écrit :
+>> Hello!
+> [...]
+>>
+>> There was a discuss on
+>> 1) preparing policies on hunspell-dictionaries
+>> 2) deprecate and kill myspell in Mga2
+>> 3) changing the default path of dictionaries, from /usr/share/myspell to
+>> /usr/share/hunspell (and to keep backward compatibility links in myspell
+>> directory)
+>> 4) to provide "enchant-dictionary" and "hunspell-dictionary" by every
+>> hunspell-dictionary
+>>
+>> So finally, I've prepared a first version of the policy
+>> https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Hunspell-dictionary_policy
+>> If you like, please tell me your comments of it. Is it right? (Also: is
+>> the .spec correct?) When everything will be accepted then every
+>> hunspell-dictionary will be updated according to the policy.
+>
+> some comments about the policy:
+>
+> Version:        1.0
+> Release:        %mkrel %{upstream_release}.%{rel}
+>
+> I don't think it will be possible to use Version 1.0 and upstream 
+> version only in the release; most hunspell dictionaries already use 
+> upstream version as version and have a version > 1.0.
+upstream version != upstream release
+
+We will keep Fedora versioning.
+>
+> -- 
+>
+> #Mageia values: 1 - aspell, 2 - hunspell, 3 - language specific
+> Provides:       enchant-dictionary = 2
+> Provides:       hunspell-dictionary
+> Provides:       dictionary-%{languagecode}
+>
+> about the version value of the provides: is the meaning (1 - aspell, 2 
+> - hunspell, 3 - language specific) really needed? is it currently used?
+> Because I think that it could be usefull that the versionned provides 
+> indicates the location of the dictionary:
+> - current enchant-dictionary = 2 ->> /usr/share/dict/mozilla
+> - enchant-dictionary from hunspell ->> enchant-dictionary = 4 ->> 
+> /usr/share/hunspell and /usr/share/myspell,
+> - enchant-dictionary from future hunspell without compatibility link 
+> in /usr/share/myspell ->> enchant-dictionary = 5 ->> 
+> /usr/share/hunspell only,
+> - ...
+>
+> (it seems weird for me to use the same "enchant-dictionary = 2" 
+> versionned provide, both for "deprecated" myspell dictionaries, and 
+> new hunspell dictionaries.)
+> if the versionned provides indicates the location, we can use it if 
+> necessary in Conflicts or Requires in others packages.
+> e.g. currently Firefox searches dictionnaries in 
+> /usr/share/dict/mozilla (myspell dictionaries). when we change this 
+> location, we could add a Requires enchant-dictionary = 4.
+>
+> same for hunspell-dictionary and dictionary-%{languagecode}, a 
+> versionned provides could indicate the location of the dictionary.
+> if we want to be able to remove easily all the compatibility link in 
+> the future, we should really consider this.
+>
+If a package requires enchant-dictionary, then language specific will be 
+chosen before Aspell. This is the whole idea behind it. (eg. Voikko is 
+chosen before hunspell-fi and aspell-fi too). And I'm against some 
+special versioning for directories, we don't really need it.
+>
+>>
+>> PS. The changes of enchant will be proposed or accepted later, Funda has
+>> already prepared the package.
+>
+> new hunspell dictionaries provides enchant-dictionary and obsoletes 
+> myspell dictionaries, but enchant still can't use the new hunspell 
+> dictionaries. I think that it should be fixed ASAP, or we will release 
+> an alpha 3 with broken spelling for lot of languages.
+> I propose the attached patches for enchant, so that enchant can use 
+> dictionaries from /usr/share/hunspell, /usr/share/myspell, and 
+> /usr/share/dict/ooo.
+> Anssi, Kamil, WDYT ?
+Yes feel free to fix it. As far as I saw Funda was already working with 
+enchant disabling Aspell and Myspell.
+>
+> same problem with firefox and thunderbird, they use dictionaries from 
+> /usr/share/dict/mozilla = myspell dictionaries, that are obsoleted.
+This must be fixed too - as soon as possible.
+> (Will we wait for the complete migration, to release alpha 3 ? )
+I won't wait now, we are short on time. I want to finish everything 
+before the general version freeze.
+>
+> CC: Anssi, enchant and thunderbird maintainer
+>     dmorgan, firefox maintainer
+>
+>
+> regards,
+> Luc
+>
+So finally - I'm focusing right now just on the Hunspell dictionaries 
+and this is my painstaking job. And then after it or in the same time 
+there is need to fix the last remaining packages to use Hunspell/Enchant 
+correctly.
+
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