[Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

Sun Jan 8 20:41:12 CET 2012

On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 16:04, ptyxs <ptyxs at free.fr> wrote:
+> Le 08/01/2012 16:59, Pascal Terjan a écrit :
+>
+>> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 16:48, Thomas Spuhler<thomas at btspuhler.com>  wrote:
+>>>
+>>> On Friday, January 06, 2012 12:57:39 PM Sander Lepik wrote:
+>>>>
+>>>> 06.01.2012 21:06, Dale Huckeby kirjutas:
+>>>>>
+>>>>> Evidently once I've installed package A which requests X, sometimes
+>>>>> packages F, L, and T might subsequently get installed which also need X
+>>>>> *and presumably would have requested it had it not already been
+>>>>> installed*.  But when I uninstall A it orphans X because A is the only
+>>>>> package that *requested* it.  When F, L, and T are installed can't all
+>>>>> the packages they *would have requested* be marked whether or not
+>>>>> they're already installed?  That way a package would be orphaned only
+>>>>> when the last package that needs it is uninstalled?  Or am I missing
+>>>>> something?
+>>>>
+>>>> This is already so. See example: http://pastebin.com/AMj87QiV - after
+>>>> first
+>>>> urpme libplasmaweather4 should be marked as orphan but it's not as it's
+>>>> still required by other package.
+>>>>
+>>>> --
+>>>> Sander
+>>>
+>>> It seems to me, auto-orphans gives more headaches than benefits. Why are
+>>> we
+>>> clinching to it?
+>>
+>> Because I and meany other people finding it useful never faced any
+>> problems on their machine with it.
+>>
+>> The only problems I can remember are:
+>> - people wanted to remove some things required by task-kde, which
+>> implied removing task-kde, and then all of kde was orphan. I think
+>> many things were move to suggests since
+>> - some kind of install was installing packages requested by nothing
+>> and they were not marked as requested so they were listed as orphans,
+>> but this was fixed long ago
+>>
+> I recently installed Okular then i removed xpdf and then used auto-orphans :
+> I immedialtely lost any possibility to use wifi...
+
+What would be useful would be to know what package was removed, and
+how it had been installed
+