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[Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

+ Balcaen John + mikala at mageia.org +
+ Fri Jan 6 18:54:23 CET 2012 +

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Le vendredi 6 janvier 2012 14:40:25, Johnny A. Solbu a écrit :
+> On Friday 06 January 2012 16:13, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+> > > The system has to be intelligent enough to know what is or is not an
+> > > orphan.
+> > 
+> > It is.
+> 
+> We claim that it is not.
+> 
+> > orphan packages are packages that were never directly
+> > requested/installed; they're packages that got installed because they
+> > were requested or suggested by other packages that were explicitely
+> > choosed.
+> 
+> Then why does it offer to remove packages that will Break the system, even
+> if the package was never manually requested?
+> 
+> I have experienced this my self, many years ago.
+> Back when I had MDK 9.1 I was looking for an id3 tag editor, for mp3
+> tagging. I installed one, tested it uninstalled it and tested a new one
+> untill I found one that suited my needs. One of the packages i tested, and
+> uninstalled, also wanted to uninstall _All_ of KDE in teh process, claming
+> KDE was no longer required.
+> 
+> Obviously this bug have never really been looked at, or it would have been
+> fixed long ago. Most likely this has not been reported as a bug, or the
+> bug was not correctly resolved, possibly due to inadequate descrition of
+> the bug.
+The bug is not in urpmi but in the installer phase here.
+I guess when you did encounter that you just remove task-kde from your system, 
+this one is pulling all kde deps, so when removed it's logical from urpmi to 
+consider kde deps as orphans.
+Installer should install package like kdebase4-workspace, kdebase4-runtime etc 
+etc  so you can't face the same issue by removing task-kde for example.
+(Of course it's probably more easy & they might be a reason to use task- in 
+installer instead of specific package).
+
+-- 
+Balcaen John
+Jabber-ID: mikala at jabber.littleboboy.net
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