[Mageia-dev] Orphans - those poor orphans . . .

Fri Jan 6 12:34:58 CET 2012

On Fri, 2012-01-06 at 12:27 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+> 2012/1/6 Robert Fox <list at foxconsult.net>:
+> > After latest Cauldron updates, I got a real long list of suggested
+> > "orphans" - but I believe some of these packages are needed (like hal or
+> > basesystem-minimal) -
+> >
+> > How do I clear out the orphans - like reset the logic behind it so the
+> > correct packages will be orphaned?  Or is a fresh install in order??
+> >
+> >
+> > The following packages:
+> >  aisleriot-3.3.1-1.mga2.x86_64
+> >  alacarte-0.13.2-3.mga1.noarch
+> >  alsa-plugins-doc-1.0.24-5.mga2.noarch
+> > ....
+> 
+> This is a well known issue.
+> To clear out the list you need a deep knowledge of the system to
+> determine which packages are really not needed anymore.
+> 
+> Lately  this --auto-orphans line shreddered my whole system on a fresh
+> install after the first update, several system services could not
+> start at next reboot, applications did not run, etc. One of the very
+> few times I had to re-install because of a bug. Call me newbie or
+> pussy but until this is not a secure function I will never touch it
+> again.
+> 
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+Wolfgang, I would never call you a pussy ;-)
+
+I agree with your comments, and that is the reason I brought this topic
+to this list - the "auto-orphans" feature is sometimes unreliable (or
+unpredictable) and Mageia should consider either removing it or
+improving it so it works as advertised.  I too had sporadic problems
+with this function and hesitate to use it when it spits out such a list
+(where I am not sure what is "safe to remove or not)
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+Cheers,
+Robert
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