[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager

Tue Feb 21 09:25:10 CET 2012

2012/2/20 Olav Vitters <olav at vitters.nl>:
+> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 05:49:49PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+>> 2012/2/20 Olav Vitters <olav at vitters.nl>:
+>> > I have the GNOME view on the world: why have distribution specific tools
+>> > if you can configure it from GNOME itself. That said, GNOME usually
+>> > focusses on the very basic options.
+>>
+>> Oh yes, We are GNOME, is there really a world besides?
+>> Most systems with this view of the world went down the drain :)
+>
+> You mean like Microsoft Windows? :P
+>
+>> Besides this more philosophical/historical view there is a technical
+>> background for my opinion, see my first point.
+>
+> Yes, and I (as usual) disagree. You see GNOME as a desktop environment,
+> where it should not touch anything that might be part of the
+> distribution.
+
+Yes, I agree to the way it is described on the gnome.org website:
+"The GNOME Project was started in 1997 ..... Their aim: to produce a
+free (as in freedom) *desktop environment*."
+
+Or on wikipedia (which I care less about but describes exactly what I mean):
+"GNOME is a desktop environment and graphical user interface that runs
+on top of a computer operating system."
+
+> where it should not touch anything that might be part of the
+> distribution.
+
+Not exactly what I wrote. I wrote "system" (as in "operation system"),
+not distribution. I don't care what distribution or what desktop one
+uses (as long as he uses Mageia!).
+
+But let's take Mageia as example: It consists of 2 parts: the
+operating system and the desktop. The operating system is common for
+all Mageia users while for the desktop the users can choose one of
+many (including different window managers) or even none at all, an
+xterm would do. This means that settings of the operating system
+(screen resolution, networking, software management, sound system,
+user management, etc.) should be done by tools common to all Mageia
+users and installed by default, no matter which desktop environment
+the user selects during installation.
+
+Besides, each desktop environment having its own setting tool for
+these system functions would be an unnecessary redundancy and could
+even cause conflicts if the same functions can be set with a system
+tool (such as the draktools) and a tool of the desktop environment
+(such as GNOME system-settings or the KDE equivalent). Lately we had
+some cases in the forum where a user complained that he had switched
+something off in the MCC but it remained unchange, until he was told
+he had to switch it off in the GNOME system settings as well (or
+similar situations).
+
+-- 
+wobo
+