[Mageia-dev] Task-obsolete and non-sense obsoletes

Tue Aug 14 01:55:23 CEST 2012

nicolas vigier a écrit :
+> On Tue, 07 Aug 2012, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+>
+>    
+>> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Olivier Thauvin
+>> <nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org>  wrote:
+>>      
+>>> Hi,
+>>>
+>>> Many people already complain about it, but for me task-obsolete must
+>>> die.
+>>>        
+>> I don't think so, but people should not be allowed to add random
+>> obsoletes there.
+>>
+>>      
+>>> First I just remove but urpmi claim it must come back on my system...
+>>> probably because it claim to replace lib64db5.2, even maybe still need
+>>> it.
+>>>
+>>> Secondly it contains non-sense dependencies:
+>>> Obsoletes: lib64db5.2<  5.2.42-3
+>>>
+>>> Any lib64db5.2 over this version will by definition obsoletes any
+>>> packages having same name.
+>>> So this mean anyone can keep the lib64db5.2 as soon the release tag
+>>> is increased or someone push into mga 2 / update any libdb higher
+>>> than 5.2.42 (5.2.43 for example).
+>>>
+>>> Moreover, any package lacking of requirements during an upgrade is
+>>> removed by urpmi.
+>>>
+>>> I no-one complain, I'll do a major cleanup (eg removing everything at
+>>> least everything starting by lib) in package this week
+>>>
+>>> But I am still in favor to remove it. In past, package we didn't want to
+>>> support anymore was just removed from mirrors, and this was enough to
+>>> show their status.
+>>>        
+>> But people will not be notified of it.
+>> If a system is obsolete with the new distribution and known to break
+>> things/contain major security problems, I think having a place to put
+>> the obsoletes is good.
+>> But really I wouldn't expect more than 2 or 3 such packages in a release...
+>>      
+> Maybe we could change task-obsolete to conflict with obsolete packages
+> instead of obsoleting them :
+> - people who want to remove unsupported packages from their system
+>    install task-obsolete
+> - people who don't want to remove unsupported packages don't install
+>    task-obsolete
+>
+> This will also make urpmi/rpmdrake warn before removing packages,
+> instead of silently removing them.
+>
+>    
++1
+Conflicts would also make it easier to remove task-obsolete, if one had 
+inadvertantly installed it.
+
+-- 
+André
+
+