[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] A proposal of some kind to get point of views & comments

Fri Apr 20 22:47:30 CEST 2012

On 20/04/12 19:27, Kristoffer Grundström wrote:
+> Hi!
+>
+> Now & then I tend to loose my mind & install Ubuntu on one of my 
+> computers & the last time I did it I heard about PPA's. I added a PPA 
+> & noticed how fun it was to test the code that it offers.
+>
+> This is the explanation of what PPA is & does according to the 
+> Ubuntu-page:
+>
+> *"Personal Package Archives (PPA) allow you to upload Ubuntu source 
+> packages to be built and published as an apt repository by Launchpad."*
+>
+> My idea would be something similar.
+>
+> It starts with the user that gets annoyed how some Mageia-packages 
+> that are meant to be stable that they aren't.
+> Instead of having to do the job themselves they can just add a special 
+> media called user-contrib that contains packages built from git-source 
+> to be tested in Cauldron & then released as Backport-version when 
+> confirmed stable enough to see if the issue they had on the officially 
+> stable package is gone.
+>
+> I know that it would take many people to build thoose, but I'm willing 
+> to download git-code & compile & build for Mageia.
+>
+> I've already managed to compile & build the latest official version of 
+> Transmission without using the official Mageia patches & I've got NO 
+> problem at all using the package.
+>
+> Test theese packages & say what you think:
+>
+> http://199.91.153.84/c75b5l1s469g/yljxa1e92l5mmix/transmission-debug-2.51%2B-1.x86_64.rpm
+>
+> http://199.91.152.243/2wm8pbg3k5eg/9th0m5xxslth99a/transmission-2.51%2B-1.x86_64.rpm
+>
+> /Kristoffer
+
+Hi
+
+I have thought about it before how it could be useful after Mageia 2 has 
+been released for there to be PPA's or something like it for Mageia.
+
+With Ubuntu PPA's are really just repo's that can be added by users so 
+that they can get later versions of software that aren't in the Ubuntu 
+repo's. With PPA's it's meant to be known as well that they may be 
+buggy, because usually they have just been made by developers/packagers 
+or something like that I think, and not gone through a proper Quality 
+Assurance process. Really they are meant to be aimed at more experienced 
+users, but it seems that more recently since 2008 or something like 
+that, that quite a lot of less experienced Ubuntu users may also have at 
+least one PPA installed. Also to many installed PPA's can cause issues 
+with the Ubuntu install.
+
+I have been thinking before about the current Mageia release cycle and 
+when it comes to Gnome. Since the 9 months release cycle for example, it 
+seems that sometimes a new major version of Gnome will have to be 
+skipped, as in not offered by Mageia as an update for any supported 
+stable final release at the time.  I am not a developer, but I assume 
+those versions of Gnome can be put into Cauldron and then backported to 
+the current stable release as well, or put into something like a PPA for 
+users to install into final Mageia releases. As for Cauldron it should 
+keep on having the latest versions of Gnome, usually development versions.
+
+In general most Desktop Linux users want the latest final versions of 
+the software that they use it seems, and I think that it would be good 
+if there was a easy way to offer this for most or all packages. This is 
+where something like Ubuntu's PPA's would come in.
+
+I think if Mageia has something like PPA's, they shouldn't need to 
+require QA from the QA team and it should be known users and potential 
+users that they may be buggy/unstable.  Where as backports of course 
+will have gone through the Mageia QA team process.
+
+As for the PPA's themselves or the something like it, would need a 
+website for it like they have for Ubuntu 
+https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas and they should only be offered on 
+the site from people who have gone through the Mageia packaging process 
+and become trusted packagers I think.
+
+http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ubuntu-ppa-technology-explained/
+
+https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
+
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